It seems we are far from achieving the ultimate in these useful devices. They seem to be lacking in at least the following areas: 1) Shape. They seem to be designed for internal use, although I believe they are rarely used that way. Also, surely there should be 'his' and 'hers' versions? 2) Texture. Plastic is hardly the ideal. What about rubber? leather? latex? Interchangeable shells? 3) Control. The mains versions (far better than the battery versions, by the way) seem to have at most two speeds. We need a variety of speeds and of degree of vibration. 4) Advanced features. What about a pre-programmable cycle of movement (fast, slow, fast, slow)? Remote control? RS-232 interface? This is an important subject. Although not widely discussed, there is an enormous penetration (excuse the awful pun!) of vibrators among the population (26% of respondents according to the 1981 Cosmo Report). It is probably quite a large industry, if not a well publicised one. Yet there is a lot of scope for improvements. Comments? Recommendations? Dear Peter, To tell you the truth, I've never used a vibrator, so my experience is very limited. I'm not sure how many men use them regularly or intermittently. I would agree, though, that the range of products available seems to be quite limited. But that sounds like a *great* business opportunity! Jo Dear Peter, Funny you should bring this up! I was at a national conference on Human Sexuality (actually, it was the Mensa SEXYG gathering) in San Francisco, last November, and one of the "hand-outs" was a catalogue put out by a company called Good Vibrations (local to the Bay Area). I couldn't believe the variety!: his, hers, his&hers, his&his, hers&hers, etc. Every conceivable size, shape, texture, color, etc. seemed to be represented in their catalogue. Unfortunately, I've managed to misplace the catalogue (or else, it was "borrowed" and misplaced by someone else! ), so I don't have an address, but I'll look around for it! Lana 'v actually been to Good Vibrations, although I did not see the catalog. They are here in S.F. and run by a very nice lady. They even have a 'try out room'! They also have some antique vibrators on show, believe it or not! But nothing I saw came near to the ideas I mentioned in out comes the drafting equipment again....oh dear...>>> book/ Cindi, Do I feel a draft? Sue And it's... 1 2 3 what are we fightin't ask...doesn't matter to me... Next stop it's Tripoli... oh...not THAT kind of draft, eh? dearheart, if she succeeds, you may feel a lot more than that! ....paula Dearest Jo, Hmmmmm...well, let's find someone with the manufacturing "know-how" and do it! Seriously, it seems there should be some way to incorporate microprocessor technology into these things! If one can have a programmable handheld calculator, why not a programmable vibrator? (oh geeze...what's happening to Paula's poor little mind!) love and giggles, ....paula Now I know what people mean when they prefix their messages with "Hmmmmmmm". It is a buzzing sound! Maybe we should put it in the index in DL8. [!!] Peter Paula I am sure it is possible. After all, they are using microprocessors to return mobility to those with nerve damage that prevented them from using perfectly healthy limbs. Huggz.....Karena A Note for the DL: Good Vibrations 3492 22nd Street (at Dolores) San Francisco, CA 94110 Send $1 for catalog Open Mon-Sat 12 to 6 (415) 550 7399