[1;1H[2J85132 23-JAN 18:50 General Information Can the Puppo Keyboard Adapter be constr From: CLTUCKER To: ALL Can the Puppo keyboard adapter be constructed from the schematc that appeared in the 68Micros Mag. ? (g) Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85135 23-JAN 19:53 General Information RE: Can the Puppo Keyboard Adapter be co (Re: Msg 85132) From: DSRTFOX To: CLTUCKER CL, it is POSSIBLE to construct an adapter from the schematic. There arte two problems you may encounter. 1) There are a lot of pins to wire wrap, but it can be done. Bob Puppo himself wire wrapped the original adapter and used it for a little more than a year before constructing a board and producing it. 2) the Motorola matrix switches may be hard to find in small quantities, as they aren't usually used by hobbyists. The little note about the capacitor to use if"Squared D=4013" is trivial. I'm not sure exactly what it means, not being an engineer myself, but the line it is used on is the data line from the IBM type keyboard. Some keyboards need the capacitor, some don' t. You'll have to construct the adapter without the cap, then if you experience problems, add it later. A couple people have mentioned that they might work up a board design. IF someone sends one in, and will certify that it isn't a copy of the Puppo desig ned board, I'll print the design and/or where a bare board or kit can be purchased. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85133 23-JAN 19:39 General Information RE: Microware in the WSJ (Re: Msg 85131) From: DSRTFOX To: DSPICER You mention the OS-9 documentation as a problem, and I fully agree. However, Tandy could have easily got someone to re-write the Microware docs or an addendum/extra cost OS-9 users guide to alleviate that situation.... still Tandy's fault!! Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85134 23-JAN 19:44 General Information RE: Microware in the WSJ (Re: Msg 85133) From: DSRTFOX To: PAGAN Funny you should mention tha Intel has held development of the microprocessor up. We get PC Week at work, and one of the columnist said basically the same thing! I can't find the article right now, but will be commenting on it in the next "68 micros", as t he PowerPC is mentioned. Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85140 23-JAN 22:54 General Information RE: Microware in the WSJ (Re: Msg 85116) From: TOMFANN To: PAGAN I don't think it is fair to blame Microsoft and Intel for delaying progress. I think the real blame lies with all those people who bought IBM simply because of its reputation - "no one ever got fired for buying IBM", or maybe the blame lies with IBM itself, for choosing the wrong processor and operating system. ..Tom Fann Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85154 24-JAN 12:08 General Information RE: Microware in the WSJ (Re: Msg 85131) From: CBJ To: DSPICER The whole problem with OS-9 was the fact that the documentation scared off the users. Now there are plenty of places to turn for help. Originally there was a large void. This is a problem that Tandy never tried to address with the CoCo. They did acknowledge it however with their Tandy 1000 line of computers. MS-DOS is just as intimidating as OS-9 to a beginner. There were lots of books published because of this. OS-9 never had the following and Tandy never tried to fix the lack of easy to use documentation. If they had written manuals for OS-9 that were similar to the CoCo Basic manuals you would have seen a lot of OS-9 users earlier on. With MS-DOS Tandy gave the users DESKMATE....where did I see that before????.... where the user could just point and click without having to know how to use a command line. They trained their personnel to be able to install disk drives, cards, memory, programs, etc. so that they could actually support the 1000 line of computers. Something they could/should have done with the CoCo but never bothered with. The CoCo is a much more powerrful computer than the original Tandy 1000 and it could have made a much bigger impact on the market than it did IF Tandy would have bothered to market it as actively as they did the 1000 line. Carl More? Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85171 25-JAN 01:15 General Information RE: Microware in the WSJ (Re: Msg 85133) From: DSPICER To: DSRTFOX (NR) >You mention the OS-9 documentation as a problem, and I fully agree. However, >Tandy could have easily got someone to re-write the Microware docs or an >addendum/extra cost OS-9 users guide to alleviate that situation.... still >Tandy's fault!! I agree Tandy is somewhat at fault and the documentation is a good example. However, I will always believe that the eventual downfall of the CoCo was brought on by the CoCo users themselves. Since the cost of a CoCo was relatively low in comparison to the rest of the computer market, Tandy relied alot on software sales to make up the difference, i.e. OS9/Development system, TSWord/Edit, Home Publisher, OS9 C Library/Compiler, Multi-Vue etc, as well as MANY others (the list is quit extensive), which was on the more expensive side of the spectrum. The CoCo community as it was/is, did more pirating of this software than buying leaving Tandy holding the bag. With OS9 appearing to be so complicated (and expensive), the average CoCo user was intimidated (myself included until '89 when I plunged into RiBBS, got my first CoCo in '83). The fact is, with the same amount of effort, OS9 is no harder to learn than RSDOS. More? Further compounding the problem, OS9 requires a hard drive to reach its full potential which was at the time VERY expensive. And for telecommunications, a MPI and RS232 Pak were also needed (more money). From a users point of view I consider Tandy's decision a bad one, but from a buisness point of view it was probably a very wise decision to drop the CoCo even though it will most likely always be Tandy's best selling home computer. [Access CoCo (205)598-2100 Fido: 1:18/75] Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85178 25-JAN 01:53 General Information RE: Microware in the WSJ (Re: Msg 85154) From: EARTHER To: CBJ The one thing that could have made OS-9 easier to use at that time was Multi-Vue. But MV was doomed with system crashes and TANDY never fixed it. Some hackers fixed the problem, but it was too late. MS-DOS had easy workable interfaces (and more programs as well) that attracted people that wanted to get something done and who weren't interested in programming their own applications.d) Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85179 25-JAN 01:59 General Information RE: Microware in the WSJ (Re: Msg 85154) From: DSPICER To: CBJ >The whole problem with OS-9 was the fact that the documentation scared off >the users. Now there are plenty of places to turn for help. Originally >there was a large void. This is a problem that Tandy never tried to address >with the CoCo. They did acknowledge it however with their Tandy 1000 line >of computers. I can't argue with the bad documentation on Tandy's part, but there was/is and has been for quite sometime 3rd party OS9 step by step documentation. >bothered with. The CoCo is a much more powerrful computer than the original >Tandy 1000 and it could have made a much bigger impact on the market than it >did IF Tandy would have bothered to market it as actively as they did the >1000 line. Original Tandy 1000? I'd say ANY Tandy 1000. I'll put my OS9 CoCo up against any 8088 or XT. [Access CoCo of L.A.(Lower Alabama) (205)598-2100 Fido: 1:18/75] More? Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85181 25-JAN 10:58 General Information RE: Microware in the WSJ (Re: Msg 85179) From: CBJ To: DSPICER (NR) Yes, there was third party step by step documentation for OS-9 but it wasn't marketted by Tandy. The whole point is that Tandy is the one that didn't ever market the computer properly. They never gave an easy user interface to OS-9 (that worked well) and for those reasons it never could compete with the other machines they sold. Where would you have gone IF you didn't know of R'bow and Delphi or some other source of support? I'll bet there were thousands of CoCos purchased that never had any support other than the local Rat Shack. Kind of a scary scenario, isn't it? Carl FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85136 23-JAN 20:50 OSK Applications RE: Makpal_fix (Re: Msg 85060) From: TEDJAEGER To: LARRYOLSON Count me as number 4! Bests ---TedJaeger Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85155 24-JAN 12:35 OSK Applications RE: Makpal_fix (Re: Msg 85126) From: LARRYOLSON To: JOELHEGBERG (NR) Joel, Ok, I guess I'll have to wait till I get that issue. I have been trying to figure out how to use that _ss_play, but I can't make any sense out of what is needed for a header for IFF files. I have used Ded on some IFF's and I see where the file size & sample rate values are located but the header calls out for a 48 byte header. What are all the other bytes used for ? I also wonder if it is possible to stop a sound thats playing, before its finished playing all the data. In the case of a sound that is played until the button on the mouse is pressed. Once the button is pressed the sound stops. In other words, how do you interrupt _ss_play, once its started ? larry Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85156 24-JAN 12:43 OSK Applications RE: Makpal_fix (Re: Msg 85136) From: LARRYOLSON To: TEDJAEGER (NR) Ok, It looks like there is still a high percentage of 3meg MM/1's out there. larry Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85164 24-JAN 20:01 OSK Applications RE: Makpal_fix (Re: Msg 85156) From: COLORSYSTEMS To: LARRYOLSON > It looks like there is still a high percentage of 3meg MM/1's out > there. Oh, yes, there's quite a few of us. I put a deposit down for a 9M backplate in Atlanta, but they have yet to materialize. Almost wish I hadn't, now that Mark is doing his IO board hack thing. ------------------------------------ Zack C Sessions ColorSystems "I am Homer of Borg, prepare to be assimi ... OOOOHHH, DOUGHNUTS!" Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85174 25-JAN 01:31 OSK Applications RE: Makpal_fix (Re: Msg 85156) From: MITHELEN To: LARRYOLSON I still have a 3meg MM/1... I just don't much with the pallettes much... Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85182 25-JAN 14:29 OSK Applications RE: Makpal_fix (Re: Msg 85174) From: LARRYOLSON To: MITHELEN (NR) Well, the Makpal program started out as a program to help in coming up with palette colors for some programs that I wanted to move to the MM/1. It also served as a -throw me in the water- learning tool for 'C'. larry FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85137 23-JAN 22:17 General Information dow From: CLTUCKER To: ALL Hi All. To download a forum message from the workspace how is the left arrow printed to the screen? Which keys do you press to print the left arrow. Pressing the left arrow only gives a backspace. Thks. Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85165 24-JAN 20:03 General Information RE: dow (Re: Msg 85137) From: RICKADAMS To: CLTUCKER (NR) Left arrow key? I wonder if you are reading some documentation that represents the ENTER key as a key with a crooked downward-then-left arrow symbol in it. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85138 23-JAN 22:43 General Information \/ent unleashed From: BOISY To: ALL Does the /ent command give you the last date that the person in question was on Delphi, or does it give you the last date that the person was in the OS-9 SIG? Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85141 23-JAN 23:07 General Information RE: \/ent unleashed (Re: Msg 85138) From: RANDYKWILSON To: BOISY /ent works on a sig by sig basis. It can get quite confusing with our "twin sig" setup here with CoCo and OS9. Randy FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85139 23-JAN 22:46 General Information RE: microware (Re: Msg 85115) From: TOMFANN To: PAGAN Can't you apply OS9 knowledge to jobs requiring knowledge of UNIX? I see positions for UNIX programmers frequently. I don't think your efforts need to be a waste. ..Tom Fann FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85142 23-JAN 23:37 OSK Applications Ghostscript From: JOHNREED To: ALL Ghostscript users: I have found the problem with some of the printer drivers in Ghostscript ver 2.6.1 and I think I fixed it. I overlooked a couple "improvements" in the source code that had some `\r' and `\n' codes in them. The OSK compilers helpfully translate both of these to a CR. Unfortunately, when a programmer puts in `\r\n' he is looking for CR-LF, not CR-CR. This is a fairly common problem in porting things from other machines, and I shouldn't have missed it, must have been a full moon. I thought the problem was even worse than that at first, when a lack of linefeeds in the Epson ESC/P2 driver output was called to my attention, I plugged in my Epson with a long printer cable (10 or 12 feet) that used to work fine with the 68070. I got trash. The 68340 does not like long printer cables. Yeah, I know, Mark Griffith and others have warned about problems with the long cables before, but I was getting away with it until I put in the faster CPU. More? After getting the epson ESC/P2 driver working right, I went through all the drivers and changed all the `\r' codes to `\n'. Then, in those cases where there was a `\r\n' sequence, I made it `\n\l'. That oughta do it. The only drivers I can actually test are the Deskjet 500 and Epson, but I think the BJ-10 and C-8510 drivers might also have been affected. The `\r' by itself is not a problem, its just when they put in both `\r' and `\n' and expect them to mean different things. If you are having trouble with no linefeeds or too many linefeeds, get the new version - should be there in a few days. John R. Wainwright <> <> *********** InfoXpress ************ FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85143 23-JAN 23:38 OSK Applications Ghostscript upload From: JOHNREED To: MITHELEN Paul, I uploaded "gsnew2.lzh" today. It is meant to replace "gsnew.lzh". The first version has some bad printer drivers in it. Can you scratch the old one? Thanks. John R. Wainwright <> <> *********** InfoXpress ************ Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85149 24-JAN 01:11 OSK Applications RE: Ghostscript upload (Re: Msg 85143) From: MITHELEN To: JOHNREED Wioll do whne I get a chance (probably tomarrow night) -- Paul Jerkatis Assistant OS-9 Database Manager FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85144 23-JAN 23:42 General Information RE: OS-9 Modules (Re: Msg 85045) From: THETAURUS To: NEALSTEWARD (NR) How much does Sculptor go for now? Funny you mentioned that because I remember everyone saying Sculptor is the best available for the Coco, and then haven't thought about it since. Anyhow, it's out of my price range I think, but it sure does sound like a nice package. >Chris< FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85145 23-JAN 23:42 Games & Graphics RE: Shanghai for Level 2 (Re: Msg 85026) From: THETAURUS To: PAGAN >>...I still believe that a well written text adventure (with some graphics) provides more excitement than the pure graphics games. I can agree with that. Nothing against graphics games and such, but I still like those old 'Pyramid' like games, or Interbank Incident. It is like the book-to-Movie thing. People always seem to like the book better. Why? Maybe because the imagination finally get's let out of it's cage and is able to create it's own seen,rather than just taking whatever is laid out to you, like telivision. A book is more 'interactive' I guess and open to interpretation. The text games are similar in the interactive way, and they get you much more involved. See Ya >Chris< Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85162 24-JAN 19:17 Games & Graphics RE: Shanghai for Level 2 (Re: Msg 85145) From: MIKE_GUZZI To: THETAURUS (NR) some of the best games i like to play are the older ones like asteriods, space invaders, missile command (favorite!) and so forth, graphics aren't the best but oh my does it challenge the trigger finger! to this day I still play polaris on the coco. id love to see an os9 version. wouldn't be hard since it only uses simple line graphics and simple sounds Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85166 24-JAN 20:03 Games & Graphics RE: Shanghai for Level 2 (Re: Msg 85145) From: RICKADAMS To: THETAURUS (NR) I love text adventure games! I still have a few Infocom games I have not yet solved. It took me three or so years to completely solve the classic "Colossal Caves" adventure. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85146 23-JAN 23:46 General Information RE: Global Warming (Re: Msg 85122) From: WA2EGP To: ROYBUR I'm a few years ahead of you. After "doing battle" with fringe science/pseudo- science individuals, I think I've retain some healthy skepticism without getting too wacko (grin). Fine line to tread. Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85148 24-JAN 00:14 General Information RE: Global Warming (Re: Msg 85124) From: PAGAN To: ROYBUR >looks like i replied to the astrology part as a reply to what i now see was >an aborted message. Oops! Every so often I logon via SprintNet to see if I can transmit anything longer than about 500 bytes. Obviously I can't yet and I forgot to go back and delete the message. >haven't seen that word "phlogiston" for a long time; better be careful, it >may not be politically correct! Well, I can't recall a time I was, sincerely, concerned with being 'politically correct' (PC) or even particularly sensitive (PS :-) - I once called one of our local 'Rushians' a "budding young socialist" . He didn't see the irony, though. Maybe I just like being contrary; my user name goes back to an incident when I was about 16 years old (I'm 42 now). My father was expounding his views on a popular subject and referred to the story of Elizabeth in Luke. I More? argued that the verses (Luke 1:35 to 1:41) had an alternate and, I thought, more reasonable explanation. He responded by calling me a "G** D**m Pagan" and threatened to "tear my head off" if he ever caught me criticizing anyone's religion again. Considering he weighed in at 190 and I was a scrawny 125 I let him think he'd won. Guess you can see how impressed I was. >...seriously, though, i don't see as yet that the weather for the past year >is anything that hasn't happened before...just not for a few years. "Climate is what we expect but Weather is what we get." (Homilies 'R Us :-) Stephen (PAGAN) Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85151 24-JAN 03:16 General Information RE: Global Warming (Re: Msg 85087) From: BROWN80 To: ROYBUR Sunspot activity definitely runs in 11 year cycles, but there is evidence that the cycle also run in cycles. The sunspot activity seems to affect weather, but there is a lot we don't know. We know that all the greenhouse gasses we release also have an effect but none of the global warming alarmists have been able to reconcile their equations with the actual weather. I guess this means we don't know everything yet - huh? John Brown Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85157 24-JAN 18:08 General Information RE: Global Warming (Re: Msg 85146) From: ROYBUR To: WA2EGP yeah. it may require more good judgement than i can muster, but i can't think of a better alternative much short of, ah, zealot. which i ain't; i'm not quite a child of the sixties (seventies, more like) but i _am_ pretty laid- back. just don't call me "sir"! ...........roy Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85158 24-JAN 18:12 General Information RE: Global Warming (Re: Msg 85148) From: ROYBUR To: PAGAN y'know, it's true that i've often wondered why you go by PAGAN; i just never wanted to "pry". thanks for telling that story. 8*)...........roy Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85159 24-JAN 18:16 General Information RE: Global Warming (Re: Msg 85151) From: ROYBUR To: BROWN80 i don't know how many times i've wished i knew everything. and then later i console myself with the thought that knowing everything'd take a lot of fun out of just living. "It's not a job. It's an adventure. " but it ain't navy. 8*)............roy Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85168 24-JAN 23:34 General Information RE: Global Warming (Re: Msg 85151) From: WA2EGP To: BROWN80 Well, it is interesting that the carbon dioxide level is increasing and that the average global temperature is also rising. Correlation but not cause-and- effect (yet). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85147 23-JAN 23:57 Telecom (6809) UUCP for CoCo From: WA2EGP To: ALL Hi all. Just to let you know that the UUCP package from Bob Billson is NOT vaporware...just flu-ware. It seems Bob has contracted the latest version of the flu and has been under the weather (release and version number unknown). He will finish it up when he is feeling better. This is the official reason that is hasn't been released yet. We have been in communication almost every day and he asked me to mention the delay. Hang on guys....its a comin'! Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85150 24-JAN 01:18 Telecom (6809) RE: UUCP for CoCo (Re: Msg 85147) From: MITHELEN To: WA2EGP That is precicely why I wired a terminal to my Sun that is right next to my bed on the "night stand"... When I'm sick, i just reach over and grab the keyboard. Also great for when you have the middle of the night brainstorm programming ideas that just can't wait til morning... Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85153 24-JAN 10:40 Telecom (6809) RE: UUCP for CoCo (Re: Msg 85150) From: BOISY To: MITHELEN Alright! I thought I was the only one who had a terminal next to his bedside. Now I don't feel so "different." Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85161 24-JAN 18:19 Telecom (6809) RE: UUCP for CoCo (Re: Msg 85153) From: RANDYKWILSON To: BOISY Funny, now that I have enough working serial ports on the mm/1, I spent Sat. afternoon stringing rs232 cabling throughout the house. And, yes, one destination is bedside. :> Several years ago, I had a bedside terminal hooked up to my coco. But do to the os9/6809's buggy, little used, termcap, it was of little use. Randy Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85163 24-JAN 19:53 Telecom (6809) RE: UUCP for CoCo (Re: Msg 85153) From: KSCALES To: BOISY > Alright! I thought I was the only one who had a terminal next to > his bedside. Now I don't feel so "different." Hey, guys, to paraphrase William Shatner, "Get a wife!" ;-) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ken Scales Delphi:KSCALES Internet:kscales@delphi.com CIS:74646,2237 Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85175 25-JAN 01:35 Telecom (6809) RE: UUCP for CoCo (Re: Msg 85163) From: MITHELEN To: KSCALES (NR) I don't have room for a wife... I barly have room for my Sun. Course, if there is some filthy rich woman out there that wants to take me in, along with all my toys, I'd consider the offer... Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85177 25-JAN 01:44 Telecom (6809) RE: UUCP for CoCo (Re: Msg 85150) From: EARTHER To: MITHELEN (NR) I actually write better code when I'm in a feverish state. I think it has something to do with my brain running on overload while sleeping and having hellish dreams about MS-DOS? I try to record as much as I can about a routine before my fever dissappears and I forget everything I dreamt of. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85152 24-JAN 07:14 General Information RE: spreadsheet formulae (Re: Msg 85125) From: COCOKIWI To: ROYBUR I,m trying....getting to the wife can be fun,she is suffering with cold right now and the FOOTBALL is on,interupting her NOW would put me in dia dire situation I,M NOT a football fan,SHE is!..I,ll get to her tommorrow night! Dennis Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85160 24-JAN 18:18 General Information RE: spreadsheet formulae (Re: Msg 85152) From: ROYBUR To: COCOKIWI whenever she feels like listening is as much as i can even hope for. more important is that she feel better soon...as much for YOUR sake as hers! ...................roy Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85173 25-JAN 01:26 General Information RE: spreadsheet formulae (Re: Msg 85160) From: COCOKIWI To: ROYBUR (NR) You are in luck! she tells me 3 ways of doing it! Dennis FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85167 24-JAN 23:27 General Information gnu From: TMF To: ALL After spending an hour at the internet I got to some place that was just one directory away from what I think I wanted but they did not think that that pirticular directory existed .I would like to know just what BLACK MAJIC is needed to get this elusive program . Perhaps a blank disk and a $ would entice someone to help in this matter. NOTE the $ is only for the time and hassle it takes for addressing the mailer and such. please help or at least tell me how to get there. thanks.TMF Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85176 25-JAN 01:38 General Information RE: gnu (Re: Msg 85167) From: MITHELEN To: TMF (NR) When using FTP on Delphi, you have to be careful when using "cd" and "get" to put file/pathnames in quotes, especially if the name has Uppercase chars, or "/" chars... there may be other special characters that need quoteing...you can play it safe, buy just always using quotes around remote file/pathnames. -- Paul Jerkatis - SandV BBS (708)352-0948: Chicago Area OS-9 Users Group UUCP ...{balr|tellab5}!vpnet!sandv.chi.il.us!sysop Internet: MITHELEN@Delphi.com "Did you ever notice how cheep 99% of all BBS users are?" - Unknown FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85169 24-JAN 23:43 General Information BEAV From: WA2EGP To: ALL I d/l'ed a program called BEAV (Binary Editor And Viewer) but I didn't get the source. I can't find it in the database (my vision must be going) and I thought I got it here. Has anybody seen this beast here or on another BBS? I'm beginning to think Rod (of Twilight Zone fame) is a device on my SCSI bus (grin). Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85172 25-JAN 01:16 General Information RE: BEAV (Re: Msg 85169) From: EMTWO To: WA2EGP (NR) I got it off of Warrens Ocean Beach BBS. No src in the archive tho, it did contain several other pieces of non-machine specific OSK software. Press RETURN for related Message(s). FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> End of Thread. Press RETURN to resume. FORUM>Reply, Add, Read, "?" or Exit> [1;1H[2J85170 25-JAN 00:36 General Information CoCo System ForSale From: CHETSIMPSON To: ALL CoCo System for sale CoCo III w/512k with ext. keyboard cable and 6309...$100 CM-8 Monitor........................................$100 Multi-Pak interface cc3 upgraded....................$ 65 B&B hard drive interface with WD controller.........$ 50 10 meg MFM hard drive...............................$ 25 RS-232 pak..........................................$ 45 ORC-90/cc pak.......................................$ 15 Speech and sound cartridge..........................$ 15 Disto SC-II.........................................$ 65 3.5 and 5.25 floppies in case.......................$ 50 2 bare 5.25 floppies................................$ 15 each 5 Deluxe joysticks..................................$ 15 ($5 each) 3 Pistol grip joysticks.............................$ 20 ($10 each) 6 hi-res interfaces (1 cc-max modified).............$ 25 ($5 each) DS-69 Digitizer.....................................$ 40 More? OS-9 Level II.......................................$ 25 Multi-Vue...........................................$ 25 3 Beginners Guide to OS-9...........................$ 10 each ****Some prices are negotiable with complete system purchase**** Loads of software including, VIP, CC-MAX3 and ColorMax Deluxe MAX-10,lots of Cer-Comp software, graphics, OS-9. Too much to list. *Hard Drive has OS-9, MV, and lots of software including many drivers pre-loaded. All patched to current versions. All Rainbows from 1983 to 1991 with several Hot CoCo's and Color Computer Mag..................$ 75 All of the above (including mags)...................$650 General CoCo system (coco-3,monitor,m-pak,drives, controller and software)......................................$450 There is a lot of extra stuff not listed (cases, power supplies) that I will throw in for nothing, so pick it up quick. More? I Will not sell coco system in parts unless all parts are sold at the same time. (coco III, multi-pak, monitor, drives (w/ controller), and rs-232pak)ftware including, VIP, CC-MAX3 and ColorMax Deluxe MAX-10,lots of Cer-Comp software, graphics, OS-9. Too much to list. *Hard Drive has OS-9, MV, and lots of software including many drivers pre-loaded. All patched to current versions. All Rainbows from 1983 to 1991 with several Hot CoCo's and Color Computer Mag..................$ 75 All of the above (including mags)...................$650 General CoCo system (coco-3,monitor,m-pak,drives, controller and software)......................................$450 There is a lot of extra stuff not listed (cases, power supplies) that I will throw in for nothing, so pick it up quick. More? I Will not sell coco system in parts unless all parts are sold at the same time. (coco III, multi-pak, monitor, drives (w/ controller), and rs-232pak)system. ..Tom Fann -*- 85154 24-JAN 12:08 General Information RE: Microware in the WSJ (Re: Msg 85131) From: CBJ To: DSPidi y( hnwbnt 8e iI.n ftware including, VIP, CC-MAX3 and ColorMax Deluxe MAX-10,lots of Cer-Comp software, graphics, OS-9. Too much to list. *Hard Drive has OS-9, MV, and lots of software including many drivers pre-loaded. All patched to current versions. All Rainbows from 1983 to 1991 with several Hot CoCo's and Color Computer Mag..................$ 75 All of the above (including mags)...................$650 General CoCo system (coco-3,monitor,m-pak,drives, controller and software)......................................$450 There is a lot of extra stuff not listed (cases, power supplies) that I will throw in for nothing, so pick it up quick. More? I Will not sell coco system in parts unless all parts are sold at the same time. (coco III, multi-pak, monitor, drives (w/ controller), and rs-232pak)system. ..Tom Fann -*- 85154 24-JAN 12:08 General Information RE: Microware in the WSJ (Re: Msg 85131) From: CBJ To: DSPidi y( hnwbnt 8e iI.n ftware including, VIP, CC-MAX3 and ColorMax Deluxe MAX-10,lots of Cer-Comp software, graphics, OS-9. Too much to list. *Hard Drive has OS-9, MV, and lots of software including many drivers pre-loaded. All patched to current versions. All Rainbows from 1983 to 1991 with several Hot CoCo's and Color Computer Mag..................$ 75 All of the above (including mags)...................$650 General CoCo system (coco-3,monitor,m-pak,drives, controller and software)......................................$450 There is a lot of extra stuff not listed (cases, power supplies) that I will throw in for nothing, so pick it up quick. More? I Will not sell coco system in parts unless all parts are sold at the same time. (coco III, multi-pak, monitor, drives (w/ controller), and rs-232pak)system. ..Tom Fann -*- 85154 24-JAN 12:08 General Information RE: Microware in the WSJ (Re: Msg 85131) From: CBJ To: DSPidi y( hnwbnt 8e iI.n l other items are for sale in part. You pay shipping on individual items and general coco system ($450). I will split shipping costs on complete system (ALL items listed). Shipping is $125 over-night federal express. Leave a message on Fido, Delphi or the internet (addresses below) or call me at home (702) 564-9289 or on my cellular (702) 275-0096. All items will be gone by the end of February as everything not sold will be going to a friend in washington. ------------------------------------ | Fido : Chet Simpson | | Delphi : CHETSIMPSON | | Internet : CHETSIMPSON@DELPHI.COM | |------------------------------------| | Program debugging : | More? | RAID on a microchip! | ------------------------------------ * Scribe 4.0 * Press ENTER and be right justified. 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