#: 16399 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    07-Sep-92  01:52:28
Sb: #Gadgets
Fm: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166
To: Stephen Seneker 75020,3611 (X)

Hi Stephen... I've been playing with your Gadget/Button files. Real nice - I
know I could do it myself, but is there any chance I could get a copy of your
lib when you're done (with some simple docs). No use reinventing the wheel.
 Glen Hathaway - COMPER - 71446,166

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#: 16408 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    08-Sep-92  19:05:34
Sb: #16399-Gadgets
Fm: Stephen Seneker 75020,3611
To: GLEN HATHAWAY 71446,166 (X)

  I'll upload the lib for GADGETs soon.  I've made some minor changes to
improve memory efficiency and soon will have the bitmaps for gadgets worked
out.



#: 16402 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    07-Sep-92  14:41:42
Sb: #16390-#New drives
Fm: Kevin Pease 70516,1633
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)

Mark Some of the boot rom source is copywrite by Microware. The rest is
copyrite by Myself. The boot rom code is lisenced to IMS for the MM1 and I use
it in other places. I would prefer not publishing it.

 The only thing that people would give-up is the single density modes. Since
the universal format doesent use track 0 side 0 the sacrifice of the single
density might not be so bad.



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#: 16404 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    08-Sep-92  08:49:23
Sb: #16402-#New drives
Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41
To: Kevin Pease 70516,1633 (X)

Kevin,

Well, since the boot ROM code is licensed to IMS, then I suppose I should
contact them about getting permission to publish the code in the tech manual.

If you think the users should be able to use 2.88 meg disks, then get going on
the driver.

BTW: did you ever get a complete schematic of the MM/1 printed?  If so, can I
get one from you?

Mark

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#: 16406 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    08-Sep-92  13:27:35
Sb: #16404-New drives
Fm: Kevin Pease 70516,1633
To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X)

Mark it is not up to IMS to publish the source code. As a licensee of OS9 they
don't have any right to publish microware code. Why should they have a right to
publish the code that I have supplied them. I have licensed to them executable
code not source code.

Mark I long ago supplied complete schematics to IMS. I don't know what they did
with them.



#: 16407 S15/Hot Topics
    08-Sep-92  14:17:29
Sb: #NEW Microware "Ultra C"
Fm: Jay Truesdale 72176,3565
To: all

I was browsing through a new magazine that I just started receiving at work
"Personal Engineering and Instrumentation News," when I happened across an ad
from Microware touting:

        "A Truly *New* C Compiler Comes Along Only Once In A Generation.

        Introducing ULTRA C. It lets you explore the boundaries of
        performance for hard real time."

The ad goes on to say that most C compilers were written over ten years ago and
since then a lot has been learned about how to write better compilers and that
Microware has incorporated this knowledge into their new compiler.

        "Microware's Ultra C uses a modular architecture that created a
        virtual playing field for vigorous action by dozens of optimizers to
        analyze, arrange, accelerate and compress code into fast, compact
        executables.  Heuristic analysis of register and variable usage FAR
        SURPASSES THE CAPABILITIES OF WHAT HUMAN PROGRAMMERS COULD DO
        THEMSELVES." (Emphasis Microware's)

I called Microware and asked about Ultra C. The scheduled release date is 21
September 1992 for the OS9 resident version. The next issue of "Pipelines" will
be dedicated to discussing Ultra C. Pricing and upgrade details have yet to be
determined.


Should be interesting!

-J

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#: 16416 S15/Hot Topics
    10-Sep-92  20:31:49
Sb: #16407-NEW Microware "Ultra C"
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Jay Truesdale 72176,3565 (X)

Jay - Also interesting to read in the same magazine the editorial titled "The
Workstation is Dead".

#: 16422 S15/Hot Topics
    11-Sep-92  21:49:07
Sb: #16407-NEW Microware "Ultra C"
Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754
To: Jay Truesdale 72176,3565 (X)

Jay:

A couple of months ago, I was talking to MW up in San Francisco.  The guy I
talked to said there would be a new C Compiler come out "the last quarter of
this year".

I asked him how much it would run (as I told him it was absurd that they wanted
$800+ for the currently available C Compiler), and he said there was nothing
definite regarding price, but he thought it would run in the $500 range.

This new C Compiler really looks like something, based on what you have had to
say about it so far.

Thanks a lot for the info.

jim

#: 16409 S7/Telecommunications
    08-Sep-92  19:49:30
Sb: tslog2
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Ron 76257,1644

Ron,

Just wanted to drop you a note about tslog2. I've got it scheduled up for the 2
am mergomatic, so folks will be able to get to it after that.

From the looks of it, you've done up a full featured package! Nice job.

You wouldn't have a version for OSK, now would ya?    :-)

Steve

#: 16410 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    08-Sep-92  22:17:21
Sb: #16285-Atari? Windows?
Fm: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143
To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X)

HEy what about that new version of kwindows for my tc70?  I get lockups when
 I use it with modem on t1 and of course docs would be nice! (I have only the
preliminary version)...which I paid full price for.

#: 16411 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    09-Sep-92  21:05:01
Sb: #16374-#sh
Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76
To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X)

Ok.  I have marked up docs (20 pages or so) that I need to clean up. Others
could use the docs too, I reckon.

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#: 16412 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Sep-92  07:33:39
Sb: #16411-sh
Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255
To: Carl Kreider 71076,76

Docs?  Docs?   We doan need no stinkin' docs!  We're MM/1 owners and have been
trained to deal with sophisticated equipment and operating software
intuatively!


Ahem!

I feel better now.


Seriously .... take your time and do it up right, Carl. Sh will be a popular
item.

Steve

#: 16415 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Sep-92  20:31:41
Sb: #16411-sh
Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203
To: Carl Kreider 71076,76

What? Docs for sh? That would be a lot nicer than being told that it's just
like the UNIX version <grin>. Especially when I don't happen to have a "Guide
to the Unix Shell" in my library.

#: 16413 S1/General Interest
    10-Sep-92  15:14:48
Sb: #Virus Warning/Update
Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752
To: All

                Computer Virus Update

We must always be alert for the latest computer viruses.  Here are some
recently discovered strains and mutations.

- George Bush Virus:  Does not do anything, but you can't get rid of it until
November.

- Ted Kennedy Virus:  Crashes your computer but denies it ever happened.

- Anita Hill Virus:  Lies dormant for ten years, then has no impact on your
system despite its importance.

- Warren Commission Virus:  Does not let you open your files for 75 years.

- Jerry Brown Virus:  Blanks your screen and begins flashing an 800 number.

- David Duke Virus:  Makes your screen go completely white.

- Congress Virus:  Overdraws your disk space.

- Pat Buchanan Virus:  Shifts all output to the exrteme right of the screen.

- Paul Tsonga Virus:  Pops up on December 25th and says, "I'm not Santa Claus."

- Mario Cuomo Virus:  Has difficulty deciding what to do to your system.

- Dan Quayle Virus:  Forces your computer to play golf games from 10 AM to 4 PM
six days a week.

- Bill Clinton Virus:  This virus mutates from region to region throughout the
country.

- Richard Nixon Virus:  Blanks your screen for 18-1/2 minutes.  Although you
can eliminate this v rus, it always makes a comeback.

- H. Ross Perot Virus:  Appears ready to make significant changes to your
system but then goes away without leaving a trace.


From "AppleWorks Forum", September 1992, page 28.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------



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#: 16414 S1/General Interest
    10-Sep-92  18:52:17
Sb: #16413-#Virus Warning/Update
Fm: Dan Robins 70007,3264
To: Lee Veal 74726,1752

Lee,
  Your message reminds me of the "Ross Perot Pizza".....

  Made out of a lot of dough.....and two kinds of meat....balony and chicken.
  And the company that makes them...DOESN'T DELIVER!

  <grininatcha>    Dan

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#: 16425 S1/General Interest
    12-Sep-92  09:58:04
Sb: #16414-Virus Warning/Update
Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230
To: Dan Robins 70007,3264

Dan -

Ooooooo..! I thought it was that new SOFTWARE product: DOS PEROT.

When you start it up, it puts a message on the screen indicating that it's
_thinking_ about running, then it scans the system for any competing products.
If it finds any, of course it aborts!

(had to do that....)

Pete

#: 16417 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    10-Sep-92  20:35:37
Sb: #Supervisor Mode
Fm: Bert Schneider 70244,427
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X)

Does anyone know how to get a program to run in the Supervisor mode? I am
trying to manipulate some of the on-chip peripherals of the 68070. I have
written a driver and descriptor but it does not work.  Now I am writting a
simple program to try and solve my problem.  If I set bit #5 of the Attr byte
then the program is in the Supervisor mode but hangs up the entire MM/1.  But,
if I don't set the S bit and go into Sysdbg, I can step through the program
after setting the S bit and everything seems fine!  What am I doing wrong? Any
suggestions?

Thanks

Bert Schneider

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#: 16419 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Sep-92  07:56:55
Sb: #16417-#Supervisor Mode
Fm: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523
To: Bert Schneider 70244,427 (X)

Bert,

I haven't had the time to start tinkering with system level stuff on the MM/1
yet. I'm sure Kevin, Carl, or someone else will know the answer.

Bill

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#: 16423 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Sep-92  21:59:36
Sb: #16419-Supervisor Mode
Fm: Bert Schneider 70244,427
To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523

Thanks!  I've asked Kevin, he hasn't done this yet!  I'll try to figure it out.
I think the problem is once a process is in the supervisor mode, there is no
multi-tasking!  Meaning I can't be in another window looking at that process
using sysdbg!

Any suggestions out there?

Bert Schneider

#: 16418 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Sep-92  06:15:20
Sb: #Laptop
Fm: Christian Daschill 100112,277
To: All

I am developing machine vision applications under os9 running on a 68030 board
of a german manufacturer. My development platform is a 68040 system, fairly
fast, but exceptionally big and a royal pain to lug around. In order to make
life on the road easier for me and my collegues, I am looking for a laptop
solution. I could imagine it to be os9 running on an Apple Powerbook or a
PC-DOS based crosscompiler for the 68020/30 CPU's. Anyone ever come across
something like that?
Rgds, Chris


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#: 16421 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK)
    11-Sep-92  19:19:42
Sb: #16418-Laptop
Fm: Bud Hamblen 72466,256
To: Christian Daschill 100112,277

Chris,

I know this is an awfully obvious answer, but ... Microware does have cross
tools that work on PC-DOS or MS-DOS computers, so why not contact them?

Bud




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