#: 14227 S1/General Interest 08-Feb-92 17:27:19 Sb: #DISTO Products Fm: GRANT C. MCGREGOR 72237,744 To: All Does anyone know if CRC in Montreal is still manufacturing DISTO products? If so, could someone provide me with their address? After a few years of ignoring my COCO III I dug it all out and decided to re-learn OS-9 - mostly to get some enjoyable relief from my normal Mess DOS activities. I would like to use the COCO for telecom so I need the serial port adapter for my Super Controller II. Thanks, Grant McGregor There is 1 Reply. #: 14229 S1/General Interest 08-Feb-92 19:25:20 Sb: #14227-DISTO Products Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 To: GRANT C. MCGREGOR 72237,744 (X) Disto stopped production last year. But you're not out of luck because you don't need to get that serial adapter. Just get a RS-232 pak and a Slot Pak III multipak equivalent. Both are available from CoCoPRO!. You can contact them by modem at 313 292 4713. You can also ask them about a used Disto adapter if you want to. A fully assembled RS-232 pak will cost $45 and the Slot Pak $90. Your SC-II will work fine in the Slot Pak. Put it in Slot B, the RS-232 pak in Slot X, and you will have Slot A free for something else. #: 14228 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 08-Feb-92 18:33:31 Sb: #14220-#Mshell Discount? Fm: John Semler 70324,633 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) An ANSI compatible C Compiler would be nicer! Is Microware the only vendor of C Compilers for the 68000 market? John Semler There are 2 Replies. #: 14232 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 08-Feb-92 21:39:42 Sb: #14228-#Mshell Discount? Fm: Timothy J. Martin 71541,3611 To: John Semler 70324,633 (X) I've only heard of the Gnu C compiler for as an alternative for OSK, but have never used it and would sure appreciate any comments on it. There are 2 Replies. #: 14246 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 09-Feb-92 19:16:15 Sb: #14232-Mshell Discount? Fm: John Semler 70324,633 To: Timothy J. Martin 71541,3611 (X) Never used Gnu C for OSK but do have a political comment! I believe a bad aspect of distributing major piece of software like Gnu C for free is it stifles the market place. May be good for the home computer users but perhaps the commercial users will suffer because of FSF (lack of support, outdated technology, and etc). #: 14369 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 17-Feb-92 20:43:51 Sb: #14232-#Mshell Discount? Fm: John Semler 70324,633 To: Timothy J. Martin 71541,3611 (X) I downloaded both gpp (C++ compiler) and gcc (ANSI C) from Delphi and I can say that I am very impressed! Although I only had these compilers for the last 48 hours, I believe I will be using them from now on. Also gcc appears to generate tighter code than Microware C (Don't forget to throw on the optimizer using the -O option!). Installing gpp was a little troublesome. The routine perror() and _flsbuf() were missing from the C++ library. Also renamed libgpp.l to gpp.l (gpp.l looks like a subset of libgpp.l). Currently employing the gpp C++ compiler to implement computer science concepts encountered in my studies this semester! I'll leave a message on Delphi explaining the quirks that I have found so far. Someone should upload a copy to CIS. These are great compilers as far as I can see. John Semler There is 1 Reply. #: 14378 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 18-Feb-92 13:19:29 Sb: #14369-Mshell Discount? Fm: Timothy J. Martin 71541,3611 To: John Semler 70324,633 (X) For folks with Internet ftp access, the hermit.cs.wisc.edu machine has the OSK Gnu C compiler also. #: 14261 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 09:55:36 Sb: #14228-#Mshell Discount? Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: John Semler 70324,633 (X) Up on Delphi, there is a C Compiler called the GCC Compiler. I've only used it a couple of times, but, according to the extensive help file included in the command, it supports the ANSI standard, including trigraphs, and has many features the stock MW C Compiler does not have. The modules, compressed, are about 650,000 bytes -- the largest module being over 425,000 bytes long. jim Sutemeier There are 2 Replies. #: 14310 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 12-Feb-92 22:27:30 Sb: #14261-#Mshell Discount? Fm: Timothy J. Martin 71541,3611 To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X) Yes, it's my understanding that GCC is in fact the Gnu C Compiler. Was installation a big deal for GCC or not? There is 1 Reply. #: 14313 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 13-Feb-92 09:56:38 Sb: #14310-Mshell Discount? Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: Timothy J. Martin 71541,3611 (X) >Was installation a big deal for GCC or not? Had no problem installing it, and it's fairly easy to use. Wish the dox file that came with it had the help screen in it, though. The dox are lacking in what-all this compiler can do, and the only true help is the '-?'. jim Sutemeier #: 14327 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 14-Feb-92 17:50:33 Sb: #14261-#Mshell Discount? Fm: John Semler 70324,633 To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 (X) The GCC compiler deal sounds good! How do I log on to Delphi? There is 1 Reply. #: 14335 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 15-Feb-92 14:34:14 Sb: #14327-Mshell Discount? Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: John Semler 70324,633 (X) Delphi--> call voice 1-800-695-4005...... #: 14231 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 08-Feb-92 20:14:29 Sb: #14224-Mshell Discount? Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) Bill - Lint is really a compiler superset, and is VERY picky. If you had to live with a compiler as nasty as Lint all the time, you'd go nuts. Pete #: 14236 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 08-Feb-92 23:00:47 Sb: #14224-Mshell Discount? Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Bill Dickhaus 70325,523 (X) The claim made by the folks who originally did lint was that the compiler shouldn't bother to tell you about questionable constructs, but should do what it's told and generate code for it even if it looks like a construct that may be bogus (semantically bogus, e.g. use a variable that may not have been set). OTOH, these days people expect compilers to do the kind of flow analysis lint does, though for other reasons, and ANSI prototypes allow some of the error checking that lint did, so there's less of an argument for a separate lint program. #: 14230 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 08-Feb-92 19:36:15 Sb: #14226-#MM/1's and Printers v2.3 Fm: Ken Gideon 72270,664 To: Ken Gideon 72270,664 (X) welp, did some more playing, the epson works fine on my cocoIII, got the xmode param's from the coco, and copyed them onto the mm/1. still no go... welp then I took the DMP110 from my coco and stuck it on the MM/1... used both sc68230 drivers (one at a time :-) and the dmp110 wouldn't print... so just witch printers do work with the MM/1???? bye Ken. There are 2 Replies. #: 14241 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 09-Feb-92 11:01:55 Sb: #14230-MM/1's and Printers v2.3 Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Ken Gideon 72270,664 (X) Ken, I'm having no problems with my Okidata 82a. Works like a champ. Steve #: 14247 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 09-Feb-92 21:27:50 Sb: #14230-MM/1's and Printers v2.3 Fm: John R. Wainwright 72517,676 To: Ken Gideon 72270,664 (X) I'm using a DMP-430 with a long (10 or 12 ft) cable on my MM/1 - no problems. Maybe the following will help - [xmode /p] noupc nobsb bsl noecho lf null=0 nopause pag=66 bsp=08 del=18 eor=0D eof=1B reprint=04 dup=01 psc=17 abort=03 quit=05 bse=08 bell=07 type=00 baud=50 xon=11 xoff=13 tabc=09 tabs=4 [ident -qm scp68230] scp68230 owner 0.2 edition #5 good crc - E9A859 [ident -qm p] p owner 0.2 edition #5 good crc - 60BAFC JohnW #: 14277 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 11-Feb-92 06:19:18 Sb: #14226-#MM/1's and Printers v2.3 Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41 To: Ken Gideon 72270,664 (X) Ken, If you are getting garbage to the printer, it is possible that the printer port is bad or the little cable from the port to the DB-25 connector is bad. Either one is not easy to test for. About the only solution I can think of is to send the I/O board and the cables to me and I'll check it out. If you can find a person close by with an MM/1 and a printer that works, it would help eliminate some things. Mark There is 1 Reply. #: 14287 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 11-Feb-92 21:11:01 Sb: #14277-#MM/1's and Printers v2.3 Fm: Ken Gideon 72270,664 To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X) NO!!! I just got my I/O board! Im not just gonna give it up! its mine ! I waited long enough for it! you cant have it! but for what its worth, I got it to print... I swapped the p & p1 cable/connecter things.... and put jumpers on P5 (I think) the one for LF's (does that turn LF's off or on? it doesn't say in the docs)...and I started using the 3meg_init.... I dont know (or care) witch of those 3 things did the trick... but hey it works fine now... also, anybody know the $hex value of ESC? thanx for all the help everybody was... ---me There are 2 Replies. #: 14293 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 12-Feb-92 01:13:46 Sb: #14287-MM/1's and Printers v2.3 Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: Ken Gideon 72270,664 (X) ESC is Hex 1b decimal 27. #: 14300 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 12-Feb-92 08:54:52 Sb: #14287-MM/1's and Printers v2.3 Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Ken Gideon 72270,664 (X) Ken - ESC = $1b Pete #: 14234 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 08-Feb-92 22:35:02 Sb: #13973-#Ultra-Science Windows Fm: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) I have been working on 'screens' from TOP without much luck. Do you know someone who is running it on a tc70? I also want to get KD Windows but I understand Frank Hogg still needs to talk to you. Just got my tomcat a couple of weeks ago and I have had alot of trouble getting started. The docs are more reference not step by step tutorial. There is 1 Reply. #: 14262 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 10:05:31 Sb: #14234-Ultra-Science Windows Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143 I tried to get screens to work on my TC70 with no luck whatsoever. (???) If you have any luck, please let me know what you did to get it working. On another note, are you using the stock uq37c65, or did you switch over to the beta version?? jim Sutemeier #: 14235 S7/Telecommunications 08-Feb-92 22:44:42 Sb: #14128-#Fax Software Fm: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143 To: Lee Veal 74726,1752 (X) I sure would be interested in a fax on the tc70. I could fax the price quotes I compute on the tc70 and never have to print out and dial, feed the fax machine etc. Could save a lot of time. There is 1 Reply. #: 14245 S7/Telecommunications 09-Feb-92 15:23:36 Sb: #14235-Fax Software Fm: Lee Veal 74726,1752 To: BRUCE MOORE 70075,143 Bruce, I think you meant to REPLY to Kevin Darling. But I agree, having FAX support directly from your computer would be great. Getting signatures affixed onto documents that required one might still be a bit of a problem, but not insurmountable.. Lee #: 14237 S7/Telecommunications 09-Feb-92 01:32:20 Sb: STERM Fm: MARK LITTLE 70761,3147 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Thanks for the help. I had tried /t2 and also /t1 and /m1 to no avail. Mark. #: 14238 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 09-Feb-92 06:55:16 Sb: #14219-MM/1 I/O Board Fm: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) James, I may have to call Midwest and order one of those keyboards. One of the reasons I like the Northgate keyboard is because of the ability to remap the keys. I have a CTRL key left of the "A" key and like it that way. I use Dynastar both on the CoCo and MM/1 and having the CTRL key there is very convenient. Ernie. #: 14248 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 09-Feb-92 21:41:53 Sb: #14219-#MM/1 I/O Board Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) Speaking of ctrl-key placement! Just who was the idiot who decided that the ctrl key belonged at the bottom of the keyboard. As if we need to hit caps-lock a lot.... Is someone collecting a list of keyboards which do and don't work with the mm/1. Hmmm, I wonder why some don't! There are 2 Replies. #: 14256 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 06:56:10 Sb: #14248-MM/1 I/O Board Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) My guess is that the idiot was someone who wanted a keyboard to look as much like a Selectric typewriter as possible. #: 14258 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 08:03:53 Sb: #14248-MM/1 I/O Board Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) I'm keeping track Bob. Seems that Northgate and Focus make boards that are not compatable with the MM/1. Mark theroizes something to do with timimg. I've seen a fix for the Northgate posted somewhere with less than stelllar results reported . Can't say about the focus. It's been sent back and a Chicony purchased in place. Steve #: 14240 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 09-Feb-92 10:58:32 Sb: #14218-#MM/1 formatting Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117 (X) Ernie, Could you post the complete dmode output for your descriptor? I'm using the new drivers without any problems and would like to compare. Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 14265 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 18:11:31 Sb: #14240-#MM/1 formatting Fm: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Steve, Here's the dmode of /d1. I've tried it with rates=$30 but still get error 247 unless sct and t0s=31. name=d1 drv=1 stp=3 typ=$21 dns=$03 cyl=80 sid=2 vfy=0 (on) sct=33 t0s=33 sas=8 ilv=2 tfm=0 toffs=0 soffs=0 ssize=256 cntl=$0000 trys=7 lun=0 wpc=0 rwr=0 park=0 lsnoffs=0 totcyls=80 ctrlrid=0 rates=$00 scsiopt=$0000 maxcount=65535 Am I missing something obvious? This boot will read msdos diskettes using the /hpc1 descriptor by the way. I'm using modules from the update Mark uploaded. Any help will be much appreciated. Ernie. There is 1 Reply. #: 14268 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 21:17:35 Sb: #14265-#MM/1 formatting Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117 (X) Ernie, I see by a later message, you're all fixed up. Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 14286 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 11-Feb-92 20:31:51 Sb: #14268-MM/1 formatting Fm: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Yes. I think I've got everything working now. Haven't had time to try everything out yet though. Thanks. Ernie. #: 14249 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 09-Feb-92 21:42:11 Sb: #14223-#Select Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Yeah, I forgot all about the lockout problem. Haven't tried it with a non-interactive window. And if you switch windows to hit enter so that the block goes away, well it defeats the purpose of the command . Does the same thing happen when you do "(winsel;myprog)<>>>/w"? Since a shell is being forked to handle the stuff in the line, I guess things are blocked here too? It would be nice to have an elegant way to handle this. Hmmm, what about having a prog. open a path to /w, select the new window and then start a shell there with "myprog" as a parm? Might be a lot of shells being forked, but it should work. I just have to write a "open new window, select it and run a program in it" program. Opps, not that simple. I'd have to close stdin, etc. first so that the new program can use it's own paths. Hmmm, and then there is still the problem of returning to the original screen--esp. if the paths have been closed. Oh, guess they could be duped to higher numbers... will give this some thought, play and let you know. There is 1 Reply. #: 14252 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 00:22:49 Sb: #14249-#Select Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Bob, The lockout comes from a program (like the shell) tieing up a device with a pending ReadLn. SCF locks the device so that someone else can't splat characters on top of whatever you're about to type in. Just forking a subshell with "()" doesn't cause a lockout, as it doesn't do any reads while working. But you're right, "(selwin;myprog)<>>>/w" doesn't work. That's because none of those paths are associated with the currently interactive window. It's easy to get around this when the shell (like the CoCo's) has "/term;mdir -e)<>>>/w The ">/term" is kinda like the CoCo's "/w8 Hit to confirm that the window was displaying; then back to /term. display 1b 21 >/w8 Nothing happened. There is 1 Reply. #: 14319 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 14-Feb-92 01:00:54 Sb: #14317-Select Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Right - we went over that a few messages ago. Try making up that winsel command instead. best, kev #: 14250 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 09-Feb-92 21:42:44 Sb: #drive rates Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: all Just thought I'd let you all know the results of some testing I've done with Carl's new floppy drivers for the mm/1. These tests were done with a Toshiba HD drive--I'd be interested in knowing if different drives give different results. First off, I've discovered that I can format 37 sectors and 84 tracks. This is probably pushing things, and is not something I recommend. Second, here are some speed tests (I'm just showing the fastest rate at different sect. counts): sects ilv k/sec 36 3 596 35-28 2 834 27 1 1043 (not consistant) 26 1 1390 The penalty for "turbo mode" seems to be pretty expensive. Now we just have to decide on a standard format for interchange! There are 2 Replies. #: 14257 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 07:00:04 Sb: #14250-#drive rates Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Hmmm...could you post dmode output for the various descriptors? I'm finding that I can't format /d0 using the new driver, even with the rates field changed. Thanks. There are 2 Replies. #: 14259 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 08:07:56 Sb: #14257-#drive rates Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) JJ, I'm using the new update drivers with out a problem. I've included mm1.d0 as my floppy descriptor with the following parameters: name=d0 drv=0 stp=3 typ=$27 dns=$03 cyl=80 sid=2 vfy=0 (on) sct=32 t0s=32 sas=8 ilv=2 tfm=0 toffs=0 soffs=0 ssize=256 cntl=$0000 trys=0 lun=0 wpc=0 rwr=0 park=0 lsnoffs=0 totcyls=80 ctrlrid=0 rates=$30 scsiopt=$0000 maxcount=65535 Hope this helps. Steve There are 2 Replies. #: 14266 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 18:50:53 Sb: #14259-drive rates Fm: Ernest Withers Jr. 71545,1117 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Steve, I just read your message to James and saw your dmode. I set typ=$27 and rates=$30. Now everything appears to work normally. I thought I had tried all the combinations for PD_TYP and PD_Rate on page 3-6 of the V2.4 Release Notes. No matter. It's working now. Thanks, Ernie. #: 14270 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 22:17:09 Sb: #14259-#drive rates Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Thanks, Steve. I'll check out what I'm using, and give the settings you list a try. There is 1 Reply. #: 14279 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 11-Feb-92 07:56:43 Sb: #14270-#drive rates Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) Lemme know if it works. Those parameters seem to fix Ernie up. Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 14284 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 11-Feb-92 17:43:50 Sb: #14279-drive rates Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Tried changing type and rates, and it did indeed work. Thanks. #: 14318 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 14-Feb-92 00:05:20 Sb: #14257-#drive rates Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) I see from later messages that you've gotten the dmodes you need. I did notice that type=$27. Hmmm, shouldn't that be $26 for a 3" floppy? There are 2 Replies. #: 14326 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 14-Feb-92 17:45:07 Sb: #14318-#drive rates Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) You may very well be right; I'd have to go look up the meanings of the bits. I think new descriptors are going to be uploaded shortly, so I won't sweat it. There is 1 Reply. #: 14331 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 15-Feb-92 00:01:06 Sb: #14326-drive rates Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: James Jones 76257,562 (X) I'm pretty sure typ=$27 is done to make the driver think it's a 8" to get the 3ms step rate. And to let the driver also know that it's a 3.5" for formatting purposes. #: 14354 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 16-Feb-92 22:07:50 Sb: #14318-drive rates Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Mike H. is pretty close. Type *should* be $26. But, due to the roms, that disk won't boot. If (and only if) you want it to boot, you have to add $01, the old 8" bit. This will (I am told) be corrected in a future release of the roms. I made all the distribution desctriptors that way to try to avoid billions and billions (sorry Carl) of people complaining that they couldn't get disks to boot. Wish I could type - desctriptors == descriptors. #: 14278 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 11-Feb-92 06:19:23 Sb: #14250-drive rates Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Bob, Your speed tests look a little slow. A 1.43 Meg MM/1 type formatted disk should get around 15 Kbytes a second transfer (read and write). >Now we just have to decide on a standard format for interchange! Well, I'd suggest leaving the descriptors as thet come from IMS. That might be a good "standard". Mark #: 14251 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 09-Feb-92 22:26:37 Sb: #14167-BASIC's INKEY Fm: Bob Palmer 74646,2156 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) AHA! that's where the 208 comes from. I must try it from the /term port and see what happens there. More than one way to skin a cat around here. Must admit though I am eagerly awaiting the VT100 version of the screen driver. ( not to mention certain windowing software ;-) ) Thanks - Bob. #: 14253 S14/misc/info/Soapbox 10-Feb-92 03:49:53 Sb: #14093-OS-9 Community Network. Fm: John Wight 76370,2100 To: Robert R MacKay 100036,676 (X) Don't worry about a membership application. You apply wherever is convenient for you. All we need is your name and address (which I already have), so that we can start the process of exchanging information. In the case of Australian members, we are still deciding on the method of information exchange, i.e., what would be the most cost effective manner. If there were enough interest in your area, it might be to use Fido file transfers, so that you could get files within the same day they are distributed throughout the network. Of course, if you want the large number of files we already have, postal mail might be the best option to start. As for method of communications, it is already established. Here in Hawaii, I am having problems with my mail feed, but other regional coordinators are on the echos quite regularly. I just sent the basic information out the echos. If you have any questions, be sure to ask on the COCO or OS9 echo. It was exciting to see the first message to come from Australia in the COCO echo. It seems to prove that the COCO, OS9, and its community aren't dead, as this community has been able to form a network that is at last reaching around the world :-) Were you able to get our guidelines (OS9NET.ARC) from here? I am about to upload the last two newsletters up to the miscellaneous area (in the old IBM arc format). If you need me to send these postal mail, let me know here, or on the COCO or OS9 echo. I will also get a care package of shareable files together so that the region in Australia can start its library. Let me know what disk format you want, and it would also help if you could send some disks. #: 14254 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 05:00:43 Sb: #14139-#Floppy Driver Fm: John Strong 72270,1555 To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X) Mark where is the update archieves to be found? John Strong There is 1 Reply. #: 14255 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 06:45:43 Sb: #14254-Floppy Driver Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41 To: John Strong 72270,1555 (X) Johm, The updates are not here. I removed them to make some corrections. They will be re-uploaded soon. Mark #: 14260 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 08:18:41 Sb: #handshaking on /t3 Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: All AS I continue my shake out of the I/O board, I've run across a problem using my high speed PPI 9600 baud modem on /t3. Seems that unless I turn off the local hardware flow control (RTS/CTS), data isn't received. I can dial, make the connect, get all the nice info that tells me I have a MNP and v.42 connection. I can also see the xmit light flash on the modem, so data is getting through. Flipping thought the Tech manual (nice job, Mark!), I find info to the effect that hardware hand shaking isn't turned on. To do so, I need only to set the high bit on the 'type' parameter. Lessee .... it's '00' now, so that would make it $80, jes? Reading further, I'm also told there is not software to accomplish this task. Trying Xmode /t3 type=$80 confirms this. What's a newbie to do? Is there a way I can do what needs to be done? Am I even on the right track? Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 14263 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 13:22:30 Sb: #14260-#handshaking on /t3 Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Setting type=$80 is the way to turn on hardware handshake. I used a binary file editor (bedt or ded or ??) but moded works too. I figured someone would crank out a little util to do it. The downside is you have to reboot after patching. There is 1 Reply. #: 14264 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 18:06:02 Sb: #14263-#handshaking on /t3 Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: Carl Kreider 71076,76 (X) I found you can xmode /t3 type=80 (notice no hex sign) the save it out and verify it with fixmod or ded. I've the same set up as you. PM 9600SA and all. Works VERY well at 38.4 Kb. :-) Sure make uucp fly! There is 1 Reply. #: 14269 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 21:45:46 Sb: #14264-#handshaking on /t3 Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X) Mike, I was able to use xmode as you suggested and saved it out, used fixmod and made a new boot. Still no luck. Everything is still as it was ... data going out, but nothing coming back. Which version of xmode are you using? The one that came on the distribution disks or the one with the update modules that was here for a few days? How do you have your modem set up? Anything special? Steve There are 2 Replies. #: 14273 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 11-Feb-92 02:04:50 Sb: #14269-#handshaking on /t3 Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) The ident of my xmode util: Header for: xmode Module size: $21C2 #8642 Owner: 1.0 Module CRC: $98A4B1 Good CRC Header parity: $50CF Good parity Edition: $13 #19 Ty/La At/Rev $101 $C001 Permission: $555 -----e-r-e-r-e-r Exec off: $4E #78 Data size: $730 #1840 Stack size: $C00 #3072 Init. data off: $1E1C #7708 Data ref. off: $2100 #8448 Prog Mod, 68000 obj, Sharable, Sticky Module Output of /t3: noupc bsb bsl echo lf null=0 pause pag=24 bsp=08 del=18 eor=0D eof=1B reprint=04 dup=01 psc=17 abort=03 quit=05 bse=08 bell=07 type=80 baud=38400 xon=11 xoff=13 tabc=09 tabs=4 Hope this helps! There is 1 Reply. #: 14280 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 11-Feb-92 07:58:18 Sb: #14273-handshaking on /t3 Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X) Your xmode matches the one I'm using (from the update). I'll try your modem settings as well as upping the port speed to 38.4 as you have done and see what gives. Thanks! Steve #: 14274 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 11-Feb-92 02:05:26 Sb: #14269-#handshaking on /t3 Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Here's how I set up the modem: Practical Paripherals PM9600SA with the following defaults AT &F &C1 &D3 S0=1 E0 L0 T Q2 &W Then to turn on error-correction and auto compression AT &Q5 I also got tired of listening to it dial in the middle of the night so AT M0 &W Here's the at&v profile: ACTIVE PROFILE: DTE:38400 DCE:9600 PARITY:NONE B16 B1 B41 B60 E1 L0 M0 N1 Q20 T V1 W1 X4 Y0 &C1 &D3 &K3 &Q6 &S0 &U0 &Y0 S00:002 S01:000 S02:043 S03:013 S04:010 S05:008 S06:002 S07:120 S08:002 S09:006 S10:014 S11:095 S12:050 S18:000 S25:005 S26:001 S30:000 S36:007 S37:009 S38:020 S43:006 S46:138 S48:007 S82:128 S86:000 S95:044 STORED PROFILE 0: B16 B1 B41 B60 E1 L0 M0 N1 Q2 T V1 W1 X4 Y0 &C1 &D3 &K3 &Q6 &S0 &U0 S00:002 S02:043 S06:002 S07:120 S08:002 S09:006 S10:014 S11:095 S12:050 S18:000 S25:005 S26:001 S36:007 S37:009 S38:020 S46:138 S48:007 S82:128 S95:044 STORED PROFILE 1: B16 B1 B41 B60 E1 L0 M0 N1 Q0 T V1 W0 X4 Y0 &C1 &D3 &K3 &Q5 &S0 &U0 S00:000 S02:043 S06:002 S07:050 S08:002 S09:006 S10:014 S11:095 S12:050 S18:000 S25:005 S26:001 S36:007 S37:000 S38:020 S46:138 S48:007 S82:128 S95:000 Ask if you have any Q's. There are 2 Replies. #: 14281 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 11-Feb-92 08:12:19 Sb: #14274-handshaking on /t3 Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X) Something's still amiss. I'll go over your modem parameter setting with a fine tooth comb when I get home from the office tonight. I may have someting out of wack there. Can you think of anything else that might be contributing to this problem? Did you happen to whip up a special cable perhaps? I have another paddle board that is wanting one more jumper. I'll dig one up at the office and try that board tonight, just incase it's related to that. Thanks for working with me! Steve #: 14288 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 11-Feb-92 21:13:15 Sb: #14274-#handshaking on /t3 Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X) Mike, I've just finished installing /t4 (second paddle board) and find I have the same problems with that one as well. The thing does fine so long as hardware flow contrtol is off. (&K0) I'm in the process of matching your modem parameters and trying it again, but inthe meantime, could I get you to verify the position of the 8 jumpers on your paddle boards? Mine are as follows: ________ DB9 ______ P2 |||||||| P4 .||. Pretty sorry drawing ...but you get the idea, jes? Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 14291 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 12-Feb-92 01:12:32 Sb: #14288-#handshaking on /t3 Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Well, your jumpers are on a little diff. Ok here's mine: P2 |||||||| All of 'em jumpered. P4 |:|: I guess it's P4 P3 :::: Ribbon cable to P9 on the board. I'm doing this from memory, but I just did the set up the day before yesterday. Pease had one on the other end of the phone and told me how to jumper it. Luck, - Mike - There are 2 Replies. #: 14296 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 12-Feb-92 06:31:35 Sb: #14291-#handshaking on /t3 Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41 To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X) Mike, The jumpers on P4 control the logic of RTS and DTR. The jumper is labeled as: 1 * * 2 3 * * 4 5 * * 6 7 * * 8 looking at the paddle board with the DB-9 to the left. Jumpering pins 1 and 2 allow RTS to toggle freely. Jumpers across 3 and 4 tie RTS high. Jumpering pins 5 and 6 allow DTR to toggle freely while jumpering 7 and 8 tie it high. Steve's problem is pins 3 and 4 are jumpered. The default settings on the paddle boards are for 3,4 and 5,6 to be jumpered. If he moves the jumper on 3,4 to 1,2, it should work. This is all explained in the tech manual. Mark There is 1 Reply. #: 14306 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 12-Feb-92 17:54:55 Sb: #14296-handshaking on /t3 Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X) Thanks for the help! Yup, Mine is jumpered the way you describe. I see he's got it going now. (yippie!) > This is all explained in the tech manual. Oh, the tech manual I have is an empty binder. ;-) #: 14298 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 12-Feb-92 08:25:59 Sb: #14291-#handshaking on /t3 Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X) Mike, We're cooking with gas now! Your pictures, coupled with Marks citation from the tech manual has me up and going with the PPI modem. Thanks! Now ... all I need to figure out is how to increase the xmit and rec buffer size in the appropriate descriptors. At 9600 baud, Sterm falls all over itself with the stock values. Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 14307 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 12-Feb-92 18:40:42 Sb: #14298-#handshaking on /t3 Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Great! Guess I had the jumpers backwards. Sorry 'bout that. The way Mark said to jumper P4 is the way I have mine too. Have you copied the moded.fields file, that was in the update, to /DD/SYS? If so just do a "moded t3" to the descriptor on disk. It allows you to set the buffer sizes. With STerm and the PPI, just for fun try an at$h to list the modems AT menu. You'll see that Kev's character now maps to the old CoCo up line char. (Bummer) I've tried to get him to take it out. So if you to a write to the window, the $09 comes out as an up line command and if you do a writeln it's a . 'Course it makes sense to use write in a term program, right? (Pun Alert!) 'Cause write is the right way to write, right? (Baa-daa-ping!) When you figure out the optimal buffer sizes for Sterm and /t3 lemme know what sizes you ended up with. My input buffer size is 3840 and the output buffer is 32768? Seems quite incorrect to me! Lemme check to see If I have the latest /t3 descriptor.... Oops! My t3 is 8 bytes shorter than the latest. Better fix that right now. Input is 80 output is 140..... .. Ok put the new descriptor in. I set the input buffer to 4096. Works well for everything but CIS at 9600 bps. @ 9600 it still drops chars with STerm on CIS. Works fine on the local BBS's and with UUCP tho. (Ain't this fun!) There are 2 Replies. #: 14308 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 12-Feb-92 21:27:46 Sb: #14307-handshaking on /t3 Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X) Wow .... you're really up there with the buffer size. I was thinking hard to use 1024. I'll let you know what I finally end up with. Thanks for the pointer on the moded.fields file. Without manuals, I'm running blind. And I hate to keep asking Mark for every bit of advice. Back to the buffer size... I wonder how Carl setled on 80/140 as defaults. Or is he just carrying on a Microware tradition? Steve #: 14311 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 13-Feb-92 07:01:59 Sb: #14307-#handshaking on /t3 Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41 To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X) Mike, >You'll see that Kev's character now maps to the old CoCo up line char. >(Bummer) I've tried to get him to take it out. So if you to a write to the >window, the $09 comes out as an up line command and if you do a writeln it's >a . 'Course it makes sense to use write in a term program, right? Yeah, I noticed with Sterm that stupid up cursor comes back because Sterm does use write() to write to the screen. I thought about putting writeln() in to fix it, but then I'd have to wait until a full line of text came in from the modem before writing to the screen. This would make the output look pretty jumpy if there were long lines in the data stream so I decided against it. Seems pretty stupid to me to have that up-cursor in there again. After years of listening to people complain about it you would think that Kevin would not have put it back in. Sometimes I wonder were that boy's mine is. Mark There are 2 Replies. #: 14320 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 14-Feb-92 01:01:41 Sb: #14311-#handshaking on /t3 Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X) Ummm, the 09=up was in there because of the people who originally wanted (and had specified at first) "CoCo compatibility". As for write() vs writeln()... learn some more. Writeln doesn't always mean "write until carriage return". It means "write with possible editing"... eg: change tabs to spaces for terminals which don't support tabs and/or if you want tabs to be a different spacing than what the terminal default is. Writeln works just like write if you specify fewer characters and turn off certain path options. RTM. Here's a program which should take any windio version and kill the 09=up code. Load it into basic, pack it, then chd to your boot module directory and make a copy of your old windio. Now call the program using the name of the windio file to modify, like "nulltab windio"... then make a new boot. Enjoy! PROCEDURE nulltab DIM f,filepos:INTEGER DIM b,bmi(2),nop(2):BYTE filepos=0 \ nop(1)=$4e\ nop(2)=$71 PARAM name$ OPEN #f,name$ LOOP GET #f,bmi filepos=filepos+2 IF bmi(1)=$6b AND bmi(2)=$04 THEN GET #f,bmi IF bmi(1)=$33 AND bmi(2)=$40 THEN PRINT USING "h4",filepos GOTO 100 ENDIF filepos=filepos+2 ENDIF ENDLOOP END 100 REM Replace 09 code with nop's SEEK #f,filepos PUT #f,nop PUT #f,nop CLOSE #f SHELL "fixmod -u "+name$ END There are 2 Replies. #: 14323 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 14-Feb-92 12:00:58 Sb: #14320-handshaking on /t3 Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Neat Kev! I made the patch, what a difference. Is there a way to patch it to jump the routine that converts 09's to the writeln 09 routine? Thanks, - Mike - #: 14338 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 16-Feb-92 06:04:50 Sb: #14320-handshaking on /t3 Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Kevin, >Ummm, the 09=up was in there because of the people who originally wanted >(and had specified at first) "CoCo compatibility". Good answer Kev. Did you keep all the other bugs in there too so everyone would feel "at home" (grin). Mark #: 14322 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 14-Feb-92 12:00:11 Sb: #14311-handshaking on /t3 Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X) Sterm isn't the only com program that uses write. So does uWare's Com. I wonder if Vaughn Cato's does the same? Even Kermit uses write! - Mike - #: 14267 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 10-Feb-92 21:00:36 Sb: #MM/1 getstat & setstat Fm: John Strong 72270,1555 To: Kevin Darling Where can I get information on the get & set status call for the MM/1? Assembly language please. John Strong There is 1 Reply. #: 14275 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 11-Feb-92 02:25:01 Sb: #14267-#MM/1 getstat & setstat Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: John Strong 72270,1555 (X) John, You can find all that in the OS-9 system manuals that come with you OSK box. There is a whole section on OS-9 system calls. If you don't have your manuals yet, I can help you on some of them. Any calls you have in mind? - Mike - There is 1 Reply. #: 14289 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 11-Feb-92 22:54:36 Sb: #14275-#MM/1 getstat & setstat Fm: John Strong 72270,1555 To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X) Mike, no manuals yet! I need the screen/window related calls. I program primaryly in assembly. Will try C when my I/O board arrives & I have the Hard drive running. thanks in advance for any and all help. John R. Strong There is 1 Reply. #: 14292 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 12-Feb-92 01:13:11 Sb: #14289-#MM/1 getstat & setstat Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: John Strong 72270,1555 (X) John, If you can call the c library from asm you should be able to use the CGFX.L here in Lib 12. The docs are up there also. If you can't use the library, I'm pretty sure someone had uploaded a util that told the display codes for the CoCo 3 in DL 10. One was called displa.txt and the other helpwn.b09. Any specific codes you need? This list is quite extensive. There is 1 Reply. #: 14309 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 12-Feb-92 22:03:37 Sb: #14292-MM/1 getstat & setstat Fm: John Strong 72270,1555 To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X) Mike, I know the Coco 3 display codes. Without the Osk Manuals, I have no idea on how to call a C library function. What I need is the down and dirty (grin) details on using such get/set status calls as SS.Palet gs.address , etc. from assembly. register usage , data stuctures (SS.Mouse) and the like. I can't start to port any of my games to OSK with this info. Screen layout info would also be handy, as well as more info on SS.Play & SS.Tone. any and all info would be appreciated. I can hardly to get my games running on the MM/1. (Soviet Bloc & Gems) John Strong #: 14272 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 11-Feb-92 00:25:49 Sb: #Of mice & MM/1's Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Kev; Finally got my I/O board last week and got the HD populated -- this is *great*! What a personality change it makes in the MM/1!! I'm having a bit of trouble getting a mouse to work tho, and could use a hint or two. ;-) I've got ms and ms901 (ms68901) in memory, stdpats_16 & _256 merged via startup, but I never see a mouse pointer. Tried both a Mouse Systems trackball and a Logictech mouse on /t2 (they both work on a PC). Logictech is completely dead - movement = null, buttons = null. Mouse says on bottom 'Microsoft compatible'. Mouse Systems - buttons = null, trackball = window change. M/S is supposed to be 'Logictech compatible'. What am I missing? Should I have /t2 in the boot? TIA, ...Jim p.s. For anyone looking for an audio cable for their MM/1, most stereo dealers carry a cable made for Euro cassette decks to amp input made by RECOTON - p/n AC409 for about $3.69 or so. There is 1 Reply. #: 14276 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 11-Feb-92 02:25:39 Sb: #14272-#Of mice & MM/1's Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim, Do you have ms68901 or ms901? They are different drivers. Make sure the baud rate in /ms is set to 1200. And dump /ms to see which driver it wants. (Should be at the end of the module). The driver and descriptor has to be Gen'd into the boot or it wont work. Also you'll need to leave /T2 OUT of the bootfile. The patterns should not affect the mouse at all. I'm running a LogiTech 3 button mouse here, Model No: CC-93-DF. (I can't remember what the box said, I use to use it on the CoCo) Let us know how it turns out. If you don't get a pointer after doing the above. Post the Idents of the modules and the xmode to /ms for me. - Mike - There is 1 Reply. #: 14295 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 12-Feb-92 06:14:09 Sb: #14276-#Of mice & MM/1's Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X) Mike; Thanks for the quick reply. About the only thing that I hadn't checked was the baud rate for /ms, but it was O.K. >Do you have ms68901 or ms901? They are different drivers. Hmm, the bootlist calls for ms68901, but ms901 is the one that shows up in an MDIR. There is no ms901 in the bootmods/win directory. A dump shows both to be identical, at least on screen. Header for: ms Module size: $78 #120 Owner: 0.1 Module CRC: $A4F4E0 Good CRC Header parity: $3F5B Good parity Edition: $5 #5 Ty/La At/Rev $F00 $8000 Permission: $555 -----e-r-e-r-e-r Dev Descr, Sharable Header for: ms901 Module size: $2C8 #712 Owner: 0.0 Module CRC: $78AEE2 Good CRC Header parity: $1E22 Good parity Edition: $2 #2 Ty/La At/Rev $E01 $A000 Permission: $555 -----e-r-e-r-e-r Dev Drv, 68000 obj, Sharable, System State Process /ms noupc bsb bsl noecho lf null=0 nopause pag=24 bsp=08 del=18 eor=0D eof=1B reprint=04 dup=01 psc=17 abort=00 quit=00 bse=08 bell=07 type=00 baud=1200 xon=11 xoff=13 tabc=09 tabs=4 T2 is NOT in the bootlist, per the instructions in the User's Guide. I'm beginning to think that the Mouse Systems TR-305 is a non-compatible one, although I thought Mike Knudsen was using one. Thanks, ...Jim There is 1 Reply. #: 14305 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 12-Feb-92 17:54:06 Sb: #14295-Of mice & MM/1's Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 (X) Jim, You have the same modules as mine. Hmmmm. Execpt my ms901 was patched to give me full access to the hi-res overscan screens. Xmode is the same on the discriptor too. Only suggestion at this point is to borrow a mouse that is known to be Logitech compatible. #: 14282 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 11-Feb-92 12:49:00 Sb: #vefprt Fm: Tom Napolitano 70215,1130 To: 76477,142 (X) Brother Jeremy, I don't get back onto CIS much any more, so I only just noticed the problems an early, bug ridden version of vefprt was causing. As the originator of this abomination, I apologize for any inconvenience this may have generated. Bruce Isted's update is the version I currently use. tomn There is 1 Reply. #: 14290 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 11-Feb-92 23:00:02 Sb: #14282-vefprt Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 To: Tom Napolitano 70215,1130 (X) Dear Tom, No appology needed. Those bugs caused me to do my homework and I learned a great deal about OS9 in the process. Thank you for giving us the original program and getting the ball rolling. With all best Wishes, Br. Jeremy, CSJW #: 14283 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 11-Feb-92 17:37:48 Sb: #'C' help Fm: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641 To: all does someone have a 'C' program segment that shows an example of how to read directory entries and file sizes. There is 1 Reply. #: 14285 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 11-Feb-92 18:55:21 Sb: #14283-#'C' help Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641 (X) Scott - Look at the files.ar source in DL9. It's fairly simple though: 1) Open directory of choice for DIR+READ 2) Scan entries at 32 bytes each (29 name; 3 LSN of FD Sector) 3) When you find the name you want, get the LSN for its FD Sector 4) Open the WHOLE disk (i.e. /d1@, /dd@), and seek & read that sector number. Extract the file's size from here. Pete There is 1 Reply. #: 14294 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 12-Feb-92 04:51:29 Sb: #14285-#'C' help Fm: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) I could not find the files.ar in Lib 9. seems pretty straightfoward though There is 1 Reply. #: 14301 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 12-Feb-92 08:59:18 Sb: #14294-#'C' help Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641 (X) Scott - You may also want to see if HDKALL.AR has it in there (Dl9). Mike Ward may have FILES.AR offline in an archive. Drop him a note at 76703,2013. Pete There is 1 Reply. #: 14324 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 14-Feb-92 15:35:29 Sb: #14301-#'C' help Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) Nope, no FILES.AR in ANY of my offline archives. There is 1 Reply. #: 14325 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 14-Feb-92 16:04:02 Sb: #14324-#'C' help Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Mike Ward 76703,2013 (X) Bummer... I hope I included it in HDKALL in that case. Pete There is 1 Reply. #: 14330 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 15-Feb-92 00:00:41 Sb: #14325-#'C' help Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 (X) If I remember right, you wanted to keep tighter control on HDKIT so you had 'em remove the source and you uploaded an AR of the executables only. There is 1 Reply. #: 14347 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 16-Feb-92 10:43:24 Sb: #14330-'C' help Fm: Pete Lyall 76703,4230 To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X) Mike - Not to my knowledge, but then I am getting old. In fact, I thought HDKALL was a full posting of all sources, since I was getting rid of the Gimix, and wanted other folks to be able to munge it if they wanted. Pete #: 14297 S7/Telecommunications 12-Feb-92 06:34:06 Sb: #Paddle board jumpers Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41 To: Steve Wegert, 76703,4255 (X) Steve, See the message reply I made to Mike H. about your modem problem. Mark There is 1 Reply. #: 14299 S7/Telecommunications 12-Feb-92 08:30:55 Sb: #14297-#Paddle board jumpers Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X) Got it fixed up sir! Good thing it snowed .... or I'd feel bad about not coming right in to the office this morning! 'tain't St. Louis forecasters grand? "Not much more than an inch expected" Yeah ... right! Now onto buffer sizes. Just playing here with a binary editor shows a dramatic improvement with Sterms ability to keep up at 9600 baud. If I only knew how to deal with 16 bits at a time! :-) I'll nab you at the office. Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 14314 S7/Telecommunications 13-Feb-92 13:53:20 Sb: #14299-#Paddle board jumpers Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Arghh.... I saw the 80/140 question go by in high gear and don't know how to get back to it, sooo.... 80/140 is just the defaults as the stuff is received from MW. Nothing magic about it, but it does have it's roots in the old days of 64K. Hardly a concern these days, no? - Carl There is 1 Reply. #: 14315 S7/Telecommunications 13-Feb-92 20:48:03 Sb: #14314-#Paddle board jumpers Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Carl Kreider 71076,76 (X) No sweat, Carl. I figured those values had to be defaults. Thanks for the the confirmation. Steve BTW ... Barry Bond may be contacting you via Email. He has some interest in your SCSI tape drivers. Seems he's been without SCSI tape support on his TC70 for some time, and it's begining to get in the way. I mentioned you might be able to help. There is 1 Reply. #: 14351 S7/Telecommunications 16-Feb-92 20:53:50 Sb: #14315-#Paddle board jumpers Fm: Carl Kreider 71076,76 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Oh my. I could help if he had an MM/1, but I probably can't do anything for the TC070. Any tape driver would have to work with Dave's hard disk driver, and I am not privy to that. There is 1 Reply. #: 14363 S7/Telecommunications 17-Feb-92 08:27:37 Sb: #14351-Paddle board jumpers Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Carl Kreider 71076,76 (X) Well ..... not to worry. He won't be needing the SCSI stuff anytime soon. Seems he's fried the TC70 shortly after he received the new serial cables Frank sent for him to install. I doubt the two incidents were related, but ... Given all the problems Barry still has with the TC70 system he purchased almost a year ago, my advice to him was to pack the whole thing up and send it to Frank with a note: "When it works they way it's supposed to, ship it back". We'll see what transpires. Steve #: 14302 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 12-Feb-92 09:24:53 Sb: #OS9 support Fm: Michael McShan 72227,3634 To: All [B I [C [C Is it possible to acquire a copy of the Tandy C compiler or OS9 tech reference manual and software at this late date in history? I have recently revived my interest in my COCO and OS9 and would like to acquire these. Anybody have any suggestions? Mike There is 1 Reply. #: 14334 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 15-Feb-92 09:46:15 Sb: #14302-OS9 support Fm: Bernard Brooks 72411,2172 To: Michael McShan 72227,3634 Try calling Tandy National Parts. I just bought a copy of OS-9 LII by calling them directly, but you can alos special order through Radio Shack. -Bernard #: 14316 S1/General Interest 13-Feb-92 23:10:15 Sb: OS-9 Job at Heurikon Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: all [edited from usenet] OS-9 Software Engineer wanted: A BSEE or BS/CS and at least 2 years experience with OS-9, C language and Motorola 68K are required. Operating systems programming and UNIX experience is a definite plus. Excellent written and oral communication skills are essential. Heurikon offers a generous compensation and benefits package in a professionally encouraging environment. For consideration, please E-Mail your resume to >INTERNET:mike.cerny@heurikon.com, or mail your resume to: Arlene Michaels, Director of Human Resources, Heurikon, 8310 Excelsior Drive, Madison, WI 53717. An Equal Opportunity Employer M/F/H/V. Women and minorities are encouraged to apply. Only those with OS-9 experience will be considered for this position. UNIX is a registered trademark of AT&T. #: 14321 S7/Telecommunications 14-Feb-92 06:59:34 Sb: #STERM lockup Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: STERM users Have any STERM users experienced lock-ups when down-loading? It seems to me that at least 30% of the time when downloading with Compuserve B, STERM locks up and I have to QUIT out. Symptoms from watching the modem lights seem to indicate that something happens at the end of or during the pause for disk writing (I'll have to try it with ramdisk) when transmission from CIS apparently stops. Then a character seems to come from CIS every minute or so but gets no response from my computer. Am I correct that there is no breakout option with STERM to get out of the downloading mode? Thanks for your comments and advice. Ches. There are 2 Replies. #: 14333 S7/Telecommunications 15-Feb-92 09:29:29 Sb: #14321-#STERM lockup Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Ches, I'm using Sterm and not noticing any problems while downloading ....but have had some lock ups while trying to capture ASCII files and capture dumps. Looking closer at the data on the screen, I noticed a repeating pattern which reminded me of a similar occurance on the CoCo when 2400 baud modems became popular and we started to push the box. The xmit and receive buffers are tiny and tend to overflow quickly. Sterm looses it's mind when this happen. I've only been able to hit the reset button to regain control. I've bumpped the buffers up to 2K and haven't seen the problem since. I'm curious ... how fast are you running the port and what type of modem? Steve There is 1 Reply. #: 14361 S7/Telecommunications 17-Feb-92 06:40:43 Sb: #14333-#STERM lockup Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Thanks for response, Steve. I'm running 2400 on an Avatex modem. From an intuitive viewpoint, I'd guess small buffers to be the problem. How can I alter buffer size? Ches. There is 1 Reply. #: 14366 S7/Telecommunications 17-Feb-92 08:50:52 Sb: #14361-STERM lockup Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Opps.... almost replied as if you were running on a MM/1. Changing the buffer sizes will depend on whose drivers you're using. If they're tandy stock, there's a file in the COCO Library here that details the offsets to modify. Try a browse /key:ACIA or /key:buffer* and see what pops up. Steve #: 14339 S7/Telecommunications 16-Feb-92 06:04:53 Sb: #14321-#STERM lockup Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) Ches, >Have any STERM users experienced lock-ups when down-loading? Are you dowloading to a floppy drive? Is this an OSK machine? Mark There is 1 Reply. #: 14362 S7/Telecommunications 17-Feb-92 06:42:47 Sb: #14339-#STERM lockup Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X) Thanks for response, Mark. Lineup is CoCoIII, Avatex 2400 modem, download to a hard drive through an Owlware system. Ches. There is 1 Reply. #: 14374 S7/Telecommunications 18-Feb-92 06:06:56 Sb: #14362-#STERM lockup Fm: Mark Griffith 76070,41 To: Ches Looney 73016,1336 (X) >Lineup is CoCoIII, Avatex 2400 modem, download to >a hard drive through an Owlware system. If you are locking up with B+ downloads, you are either missing interrupts or the hard drive is not fast enough. If you don't have the IRQ hack installed you should. Try specifying the -f option when you start Sterm and see how that goes. Mark There is 1 Reply. #: 14377 S7/Telecommunications 18-Feb-92 09:53:49 Sb: #14374-STERM lockup Fm: Ches Looney 73016,1336 To: Mark Griffith 76070,41 (X) Thanks Mark. I don't have the IRQ hack installed - never felt the need, maybe now I do. I'll try the -f and let you know. Thanks for info. Ches. #: 14328 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 14-Feb-92 22:12:42 Sb: #In memoriam Fm: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762 To: All To judge from the number of messages in the past month or so, OS9 on the CoCo 3 is dead. I suppose it was to be expected, but, speaking as one who has to struggle to pay the mortgage and taxes and hasn't a hope of ever being able to afford a new computer, I'm sad to see it go. I guess whatever I've got in terms of hardware and software will have to do in the future. Too bad ... OS9 is such an elegant system. There are 2 Replies. #: 14329 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 14-Feb-92 22:21:50 Sb: #14328-In memoriam Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762 (X) I don't know whether I'd draw that conclusion, Ian. Doing so is sort of like the famous Literary Digest poll back in the 30's from which it was concluded that FDR didn't have a snowball's chance in of being elected president. Just as they picked people with phones to ask, and thus got mostly the folks with money, looking here on CIS similarly skews the results, considering how much more it costs to use the OS-9 SIG here on CIS than to spend the same amount of time, say, on Delphi, what with the 20/20 deal they offer. Check out the OS-9 echo on FIDO...it seems pretty active to me, and mostly the folks there have CoCos, near as I can tell. #: 14332 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 15-Feb-92 03:27:20 Sb: #14328-#In memoriam Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Ian Hodgson 72177,1762 (X) Ian - Most people here read and download, and post mostly when they have a question. I guess all the questions have been answered :-) Well, not really, of course. I think there are probably more CC-3 OS9 users now than ever. Check out some of the cocolist transcripts in Lib 14 (they're near the top). The coco fests are still held, also... only most of the stuff there is for OS-9, either 6809 or very gradually, 68K. So no, most people feel as you do: as long as the stuff works, teaches something, or is a nice cheap hobby, they're still using the Coco-3. Strangely, I've been getting a lot of calls lately from people who're still using L-I on a CoCo-1/2! Can you believe it? I couldn't! kev There is 1 Reply. #: 14352 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 16-Feb-92 21:05:42 Sb: #14332-#In memoriam Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Speaking of people happy with their systems--I got a call from an elderly lady the other night wondering if I could replace here TW64 TAPE (I couldn't, but that's not the point). She's been using TW64 on her CoCo1 for years now. She's tried MSDOS machines, and still prefers her old coco. With a tape! There is 1 Reply. #: 14356 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 16-Feb-92 22:55:03 Sb: #14352-In memoriam Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Bob - if you can believe it, I ran into someone the other day at a RS store who was still using that old 32-column ROMPAK text editor! He was just now thinking about getting a disk drive for his coco. Wild world! #: 14336 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 15-Feb-92 14:58:43 Sb: 'c' and Microware basic Fm: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641 To: all Is there a way to link 'c' sub-routines to Microware basic in OS9 68K? I know under LvlI/II you could link with the '-b' option while linking it, but the 'l68' module does not provide that option. #: 14337 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 15-Feb-92 19:08:45 Sb: For sale Fm: David J. Campbell 72707,1346 To: All For Sale: Color Computer I Technical Reference Manual - $7.50 plus p+h. Color Computer II Service Manual for 26-3026 and 26-3027 Color Computer II's - $10.00 plus p+h. Leave private mail. Thanks. Dave #: 14349 S1/General Interest 16-Feb-92 19:29:43 Sb: CoCo3 Items Sale Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 To: ALL Some of you may have read that I've dropped down to a CoCo2. Therefore I now have some CoCo3 software and hardware I am offering for sale. Send E-mail or leave a forum message for a descriptive list (about 11K). I uploaded it to my PER area but CIS rejected it as a text file so I tried again calling it binary. You will therefore receive the list as binary, so just download it from your mailbox with a protocol and you should have no trouble reading it in DECB and I presume in OS-9 as well. #: 14350 S15/Hot Topics 16-Feb-92 20:38:17 Sb: New 68030 OSK Computers Fm: Frank Hogg of FHL 70310,317 To: all I just uploaded two files to DL15 about TWO 68030 based OSK computers from FHL. Thank You Frank Hogg -- FHL #: 14353 S14/misc/info/Soapbox 16-Feb-92 21:09:59 Sb: COCO 3 SALE Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631 To: ALL COCO 3 for sale 512 kRAM drive controller software If interested cotact me for price and info on software. 914 478 5848 (voice) 914 478 5851 (fax) or CompuServe Mail # 74016,631 #: 14355 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 16-Feb-92 22:49:24 Sb: #Welcome Aboard Fm: BILL HEALTON 73367,357 To: John Strong 72270,1555 (X) John, Glad to see you on CIS. You can get my name/ID from this message. Happy MM1 programming. Bill Healton There is 1 Reply. #: 14395 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 21-Feb-92 21:18:34 Sb: #14355-Welcome Aboard Fm: John Strong 72270,1555 To: BILL HEALTON 73367,357 Thanks Bill. got a 2nd drive form Lyben & it works fine, however it is noiser than the orginal. I may be getting another ST & a Monochrome monitor from my brother in Denver. HMM... John Strong #: 14357 S3/Languages 16-Feb-92 23:20:53 Sb: #Cenv.ar Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 To: Anyone I downloaded 'cenv.ar' and unar'ed it. The documentation is further encoded and I can't figure out how to decode it. Has anyone been sucessful decoding this? Paul There is 1 Reply. #: 14370 S3/Languages 17-Feb-92 21:22:55 Sb: #14357-#Cenv.ar Fm: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X) You need to use a program called CUTS. It is an encoder/decoder for use on the UUCP networks. (I Think) It sould be here on CIS. Just browse for CUTS in the databases. Br. Jeremy, CSJW There is 1 Reply. #: 14380 S3/Languages 18-Feb-92 15:11:38 Sb: #14370-Cenv.ar Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 To: Brother Jeremy, CSJW 76477,142 (X) Thanks. Will look around for it. #: 14358 S15/Hot Topics 16-Feb-92 23:28:04 Sb: #Vaughn Cato Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 To: Vaughn Cato Does anyone know the whereabouts of Vaughn Cato author of OSTerm? There is 1 Reply. #: 14359 S15/Hot Topics 17-Feb-92 00:25:24 Sb: #14358-#Vaughn Cato Fm: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 To: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 (X) Vaughn's Internet Address is : vcato@sctnve.sct.peachnet.edu There is 1 Reply. #: 14379 S15/Hot Topics 18-Feb-92 15:10:47 Sb: #14359-Vaughn Cato Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 To: Mike Haaland 72300,1433 (X) Thanks Mike. #: 14367 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 17-Feb-92 19:17:45 Sb: #Hard drive Fm: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 To: all I found a Segate 3.5 hard drive, 57mb, IDE, for about $189.00. This is a bare drive I guess. Can it be used with my Coco3 with Multipak? I have a old 12v 5.25 full hth drive case I could mount it in. What would I have to have for additional hardware? A western digital controller with a Coco interface? What about booting OS9 and also RSDOS. Can it be partitioned for both? Thanks, Denise There are 3 Replies. #: 14371 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 17-Feb-92 22:19:32 Sb: #14367-Hard drive Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 (X) Denise - hmm, dunno. You might try calling Burke&Burke, and Frank Hogg Labs, and CoCoPRO to see what controllers are available. Which reminds me. Perhaps someone can put together a list of phone numbers of CoCo/os9 companies and post it? That'd be a great help! #: 14373 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 17-Feb-92 22:50:40 Sb: #14367-Hard drive Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 To: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 (X) An IDE drive has its controller built into it. PC's only need a host adapter to use that drive. Same with a CoCo, but I doubt any IDE host adapter for a CoCo exists. I don't recommend even attempting to run Disk BASIC (DECB) on the hard drive though it can be done. OS-9 boot is possible if you get a capable ROM etc.; contact Burke&Burke for that. You can put that drive in your case but you will need an adapter to make it fit in there. Somewhere (Lib 9 or 10 I think) there's a text file about hard drives and the CoCo; I suggest you have a look at it. You got a pretty good price on that drive but I doubt you're going to be able to use it on a CoCo. Go for a SCSI based system instead. #: 14376 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 18-Feb-92 07:44:04 Sb: #14367-Hard drive Fm: James Jones 76257,562 To: Denise Tomlinson 71021,3274 (X) I'm not aware of anything for the CoCo that will let you use an IDE drive; just SCSI or ST-506. #: 14368 S1/General Interest 17-Feb-92 20:25:48 Sb: #XPAD Address Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631 To: ALL Does anyone here know the hardware adress that is used by the old XPAD. ?????? Joerg Sattler, 74016,631 There are 2 Replies. #: 14372 S1/General Interest 17-Feb-92 22:25:33 Sb: #14368-#XPAD Address Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631 (X) Joerg - the XPad is at FF60-63. I can't find my docs right away on what each address is for, tho. I believe the first is X, the second is Y, and the third is the button and menu and validity status. Need more? There is 1 Reply. #: 14384 S1/General Interest 19-Feb-92 19:04:32 Sb: #14372-XPAD Address Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) When using the Eliminator I believe that address is not in use so theoretivcally It should be possible. I would like to get all I can. I am curoisus Curious as to wheter it could be used under OS9 If possiv [Dble. #: 14375 S1/General Interest 18-Feb-92 06:29:55 Sb: #14368-#XPAD Address Fm: Bob Santy 76417,714 To: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631 (X) Joerg: I just happened to have an old reference manual for the X-Pad lying around. Here's the X-Pad hardware register specs: $FF60 X = 0..255 X coordinate $FF61 Y = 0..255 Y coordinate $FF62 Status Byte D0 Pen Down 1 = Pen is down D1 Proximity 1 = Pen is within 1 inch of the pad surface D2 X-Margin 1 = Pen NOT within 1 inch of X margin D3 Y-Margin 1 = Pen NOT within 1 inch of Y margin D4..D7 Always 0 Bob There is 1 Reply. #: 14385 S1/General Interest 19-Feb-92 19:08:25 Sb: #14375-#XPAD Address Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631 To: Bob Santy 76417,714 (X) Do you think it's possible to use the xpad under os9, or is the address conflict insurmoutable. I am using the eliminator setup so in theory there is a way to not have a hardware address conflict. unless the xpad uses a reserved address belonging to the GIME. I seem to remenmber something like that from a long while ago??. Joerg There is 1 Reply. #: 14386 S1/General Interest 20-Feb-92 05:45:12 Sb: #14385-#XPAD Address Fm: Bob Santy 76417,714 To: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631 (X) The address conflict wouldn't be as much an issue to me as WHAT KIND of OS9 driver to use. Seems to me that an SCF driver is closest. Then again, it may not fit the bill. You could think about a file manager as well. The X-Pad is kind of like a mouse, but is a mouse compatible with the SCF concept? There is 1 Reply. #: 14389 S1/General Interest 20-Feb-92 19:11:13 Sb: #14386-#XPAD Address Fm: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631 To: Bob Santy 76417,714 (X) Who would actually the best person to ask these questions of?? CIS Joerg There is 1 Reply. #: 14391 S1/General Interest 21-Feb-92 06:42:04 Sb: #14389-XPAD Address Fm: Bob Santy 76417,714 To: JOERG SATTLER 74016,631 Joerg: I guess I don't know. I'd probably try an SCF driver for starters and see if it works out. Handle most of the information using GETSTAT calls modeled on the mouse stuff in the level 2 windows? I suspect that the X-pad driver would rarely present data that you could use read calls for. #: 14382 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 19-Feb-92 09:55:29 Sb: archiving methods Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: all Last night, I uploaded to DL12 a study I just did of 4 compression/ archiving commands for OSK. I thought this would be helpful to all when choosing an archive method to get the most out of your transmissions..... Enjoy! jim Sutemeier #: 14383 S1/General Interest 19-Feb-92 17:37:29 Sb: MW Network Jobs Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: all [edited from Usenet] Microware Systems Corporation seeks candidates for two full-time Software Engineer positions in our Networking Department. Responsibilities include maintenance and enhancement of Internet Software, file managers, device drivers and utilities, as well as network performance monitoring, analysis and troubleshooting. Desired Qualifications: - In-depth knowledge of TCP, UDP, IP internals - OS-9 or UNIX device driver experience (AM7990, SLIP, etc.) - NFS, RPC internals - Experience in C and assembler (680x0, 80386, RISC) Contact: Please send resume or questions to: Mike Burgher Microware Systems Corporation 1900 N.W. 114th Street Des Moines, IA 50325-7077 >INTERNET:mikeb@microware.com #: 14387 S14/misc/info/Soapbox 20-Feb-92 07:17:14 Sb: OS-9 Community Network Fm: Robert R MacKay 100036,676 To: 76370,2100 John, thanks for the reply. I also left a message for you on Fido Echomail, but as you point out there has been a problem in that area. I have just downloaded the OCNN01 and OCNN02 from CI$. Have not had a look yet, but am sure they will be interesting. Gordon Bentzen will also be interested, and copies of which I will convey to him tomorrow, as we work for the same company. I will also upload to the News area on our local Fido BBS, the "Galaxy Gateway" 3:640/316. Thanks for the offer of files. We certainly would appreciate the opportunity to access this database. Most of us here are using the 80 track double sided format, with 5 1/4 floppy drives, and from memory, I think 20 meg is average for our hard drives. A few of us including myself have fitted the 1 meg upgrade, the others (here in Queensland) are using 512 K. We also have a few OSK users, with a local member Don Berrie (author of CENV) having ordered an MM 1. Just a little info to maybe give a bit of insight to the users "Down Under". I will send to you via the postal services, any number of disks you care to nominate, by way of reply to me on either CI$, or Echo Mail. I have your address as 814 Bannister St #4, Honolulu, HI 96819. Well, it's getting on now John (10 after Midnight Friday morn), so I beter go. I will upload this to CI$ and Echo Mail, so you will receive it one way or the other. Regards, & best wishes from Rob MacKay :-) (and the users down under) #: 14388 S1/General Interest 20-Feb-92 14:24:29 Sb: Hard Drive Sale Fm: Erich Schulman 75140,3175 To: ALL I am offering a complete OS-9 hard drive system for sale as part of my transition to CoCo2/80386. I have uploaded a full description of the system to the Color Computer Forum (GO COCO) in Lib 14. The file name is HDSYS.TXT. I just uploaded the file so if it is still awaiting sysop approval, please go back later to get it. The file length is about 3.5K and is text which can be read online. #: 14390 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 20-Feb-92 23:09:19 Sb: GNU C Compiler Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: all Good news for you OSK C people. I've obtained permission to upload the GNU C++ Compiler to this SIG, and will upload it here soon. (as soon as I have all of it downloaded from the 'other' service!!) It'll be really great of an addition to your C libraries. jim Sutemeier Sirius Software #: 14392 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 21-Feb-92 08:37:11 Sb: #/P ports Fm: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 To: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 (X) Steve; Thanks for the info on the /P ports - I'll be ordering the Tech Manual RSN I guess. Have you heard of anyone doing anything with the I**C interface yet? I read an interesting news blurb the other day about a breakout card being developed by (I think) DEC and Phillips specifically for the I**C. Will bring the info home and post if there's any interest. re: Artec mouse Fry's Electronics and CompUsa both carry them for around $15 - one of the benefits of living here in 'hi-tech wonderland' - lots of price competition. ...Jim There are 2 Replies. #: 14393 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 21-Feb-92 19:36:15 Sb: #14392-/P ports Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 Thanks for the the information on the mouse. Is this the one that that has the scaleable resolution button on the side? Two button? Three button? Steve #: 14394 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 21-Feb-92 19:40:08 Sb: #14392-/P ports Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Jim Peasley 72726,1153 Jim, The only stuff I've seen on the I2C buss has been in the Tech manual. Mark's included a page of device and part numbers. Interesting reading. If you find out anything else, I'd be interested in seeing it. #: 14396 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 21-Feb-92 21:31:40 Sb: #upload space Fm: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 To: [F] Wayne Day 76703,376 Wayne....I am preparing to upload the cmds for the C++ Compiler, but the sign tells me that it's out of space for uploading. Could you take care of this? Thanks. jim Sutemeier There is 1 Reply. #: 14397 S12/OS9/68000 (OSK) 21-Feb-92 22:04:18 Sb: #14396-upload space Fm: Mike Ward 76703,2013 To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 Jim, I've squeezed a bit more space for you into the libs. Can you give us some idea of the size of the upload(s) you have planned? #: 14398 S7/Telecommunications 21-Feb-92 23:12:43 Sb: DESKMATE3 Downloading Fm: MARK LITTLE 70761,3147 To: 72756,2213 I am using (sometimes) Deskmate3 on my CoCo3. I have successfully downloaded AR'd files and extracted them before. However I have twice downloaded STERM1.51 and STERM.AR and have been unable to get it working. After much checking and leaving a couple of messages, I have made sure all needed modules are in my boot file /t2 /t1 /m2 and have tried running: STERM -l/t2 >/1 also. I keep getting a non-existent module error. I know the modules are on the disk, and tried linking them in memory before running STERM, and couldn't load any of them. A check with IDENT shows all the listed modules below have incorrect module headers. bplus.h common.h io.c bplus.c xmodem.h crc.c io.c Could I be doing something wrong, or could Deskmate be writing the wrong header info while downloading? Press !>