c? Is it Static? BTW, Is the mail in offer still in effect for VED/68k. The letter dated July 8 ,1991 stated there were some bugs found in the first Version of VED/68k. One thing I niticed with Ved that may be a bug or may be my terthte fle E trsakto the top of the file. Ved should go to the next line on the next page. There is 1 Reply. #: 12642 S3/Languages 19-Oct-91 22:52:05 Sb: #12640-#Basic/Term Libaries Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641 (X) The DIM statement reserves variable space only as long as the particular procedure is active. If you DIM WOOF:INTEGER in proc1 the storage will stay around when you call proc2. However, in proc2 all the variables will disappear after you return to proc1. This creates some problems (yes, you can work around them) when a 'subroutine' like termcap i/o needs to initialize a bunch of stuff early on and then access it later. What you typically do is to have the basic startup code pass a variable where the stuff can be stored. Then you have to pass that variable around to all the other procs so that if you need to call the termcap stuff it will know where the data is. One other way around this is to have the termcap functions save its stuff in a data module. I've been thinking about this while raking leaves--might just give a go myself and see what comes out. I think that if folks could access termcap from Basic you might see more quickie utils, etc. written. The only thing I have to resolve in my own mind is what output routine to use (should termcap assume stdout, or should basic pass it a path, or perhaps have termcap call back to basic?? gotta rake some more leaves for this one). Hold on to your VED for a few more days. I'm sending out a letter (hopefully by the end of next week) with a new upgrade announcement (1.3) as well as special deal on a product. Don't know if the bug you mentioned is a version 1.0 thing or termcap. If the cursor _actually_ goes back to the top of file then I suspect a bug (even though it works fine here), if it just gets positioned wrong I'd have a look at the termcap entry. There is 1 Reply. #: 12643 S3/Languages 20-Oct-91 13:46:07 Sb: #12642-#Basic/Term Libaries Fm: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 (X) Yea your right. About the Termcap stuff, I added the 'sf' and the 'al' in Termcap and every thing works fine now. I even have one line scroll now, Nice.. How hard would it be to write an interactive editor/compiler for 'C' and Basic?? could interface directly to Umacs?? Scott Howell There is 1 Reply. #: 12644 S3/Languages 20-Oct-91 18:14:14 Sb: #12643-#Basic/Term Libaries Fm: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 To: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641 (X) Scott, glad that the termcap stuff is working good now. An interactive editor for C and Basic -- sounds like a tall order. And please, don't use words like Umacs in messages to me . Actually, when I do basic stuff I have Ved running in one window and basic in another. I use Ved to do the editing and just keep re-loading the file from Basic. A bit tedious, but much better than fooling with the Basic editor. BTW, where have all the users on this forum gone? A real lack of messages the last few days. Don't tell me I'm going to have to sign up on that other system to keep informed... There is 1 Reply. #: 12645 S3/Languages 20-Oct-91 18:54:12 Sb: #12644-#Basic/Term Libaries Fm: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641 To: Bob van der Poel 76510,2203 Ved, thats right . Right now I am in the process of learning Ved. Since keys are user definable, learning is pretty easy! What is nice about Ved is the Ved_env.file so I can use REAL UP/DN keys on my IBM instead of the cntl chars. Where did all the people go! Seems most of the activity is us!!. Kinda feels lonely dos'nt it?? There is 1 Reply. #: 12650 S3/Languages 20-Oct-91 21:38:51 Sb: #12645-Basic/Term Libaries Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: SCOTT HOWELL 70270,641 GRIN. Actually everyone must be busy writing programs or something :-) Or, at least, reading about what y'all are up to! #: 12641 S14/misc/info/Soapbox 19-Oct-91 12:07:14 Sb: For sale Fm: Paul Rinear 73757,1413 To: All I have a new copy of the OS9 Level Two Development System. $15 postpaid takes it. Manuals included. Or best offer. Paul #: 12646 S1/General Interest 20-Oct-91 20:16:45 Sb: SCSI Chip Fm: Jay Truesdale 72176,3565 To: all Does the MM/1 use the Western Digital 33C93 SCSI chip? If so what distributor carries this chip? Thanks, -J #: 12647 S4/MIDI and Music 20-Oct-91 20:43:20 Sb: #12424-Bad Download Fm: Steve Wegert 76703,4255 To: Jim Sutemeier 70673,1754 Jim, I've noticed something very weird on my friend's TC70 . IT has to do with the output of the Procs command. Used to be, on his QT ...(same version of OSK ... same procs) that the AGE of a process was so dead on, you could set a clock by it's information. With the TC70, it's so far off it's ridiculous. For instance, logging into his system, one of the first things I do is issue a Procs command to see if he's around. The AGE of my procs process says it's anywhere from 9 minutes to 29 minutes old. Likewise, my shell has aged along the same pace ... very strange. Anything similar happening to you on your TC70? And by the way .... what your set up like? Steve #: 12648 S1/General Interest 20-Oct-91 20:50:03 Sb: #arc help Fm: DICK SHARP 75266,2621 To: sysop (X) SYSOP----help I am trying to find the file that DE-ARC's the AR files . I have searched by the key word and only come up with the files that have an AR. sufix. Thanks for your help Dick There is 1 Reply. #: 12651 S1/General Interest 20-Oct-91 21:41:11 Sb: #12648-#arc help Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: DICK SHARP 75266,2621 (X) Hi Dick. Look in Library 9 (utils) for AR09.BIN (for 6809), or AR68.BIN (for 680x0). I believe there's also an AR.DOC file, or just yell up here for help. best - kevin There is 1 Reply. #: 12652 S1/General Interest 20-Oct-91 21:43:38 Sb: #12651-#arc help Fm: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 (X) Wow. Cross-lib searching is neat. I tried a: sca/sho/lib:all ar* And up pops all the files beginning with "ar" and where they're at. Neat. There is 1 Reply. #: 12654 S1/General Interest 20-Oct-91 22:10:13 Sb: #12652-arc help Fm: DICK SHARP 75266,2621 To: Kevin Darling 76703,4227 Thanks for the help. I'll go look in 9. I also at first tried the crocc searching and gave up after a few moments. Total overload. thanks again. Dick #: 12653 S10/OS9/6809 (CoCo) 20-Oct-91 21:49:51 Sb: #12510-Logo Fm: Steve Ostrom 74730,345 To: REX GOODE 73777,3663 While it was planned for the coco to know what (or if) an rgb monitor was attached , via an input on the 9 pin connector, this wasnt implemented. It is possible that the rgb loads the circuitry enuff to kill the color on the tv , but they are fed via 2 different sets of leads from the gime chip. I would think the effects would be more than just color, but all I used was a mono composite and the cm8. Press !>