PROTOCOL: ALT COMPRESSION: NONE CONNECT 2400/ARQ CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 03/03/93 00:04:33 Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U ?^U ?^U ?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss Logging name to disk... You are caller 229051; next msg =46118; 380 active msgs. Prev. call 03/01/93 @ 22:50, next msg was 46112 Recording logon for next time. Use FULL? to check assignments ?^U ?xxxxx "Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to ab >Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short LOG. 11 KILLED. 13 SUMMARY. 25 03/01/93,22:51:03,229039,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#46112, E#46113, E#46114, E#46115,26 03/01/93,23:29:57,229040,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,4 03/02/93,02:18:06,229041,1,ROY LIPSCOMB,, E#46116,10 03/02/93,04:40:54,229042,2,TOM KOWALCZYK,,3 03/02/93,07:41:08,229043,2,RANDAL CRAIG,,10 03/02/93,07:52:05,229044,2,NICK WYATT,Chicago/ ILL,8 03/02/93,13:43:10,229045,2,DENNIS STAHL,,3 03/02/93,15:42:44,229046,2,S S,il, 03/02/93,16:29:38,229047,1,PHIL BOLD,,7 ]Still a great board. Nice to get back for a visit. Keep up the good work. PHIL BOLD, 03/02/93,20:52:33,229048,2,ALEX ZELL,, 03/02/93,22:50:01,229049,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,, E#46117,10 03/02/93,23:03:34,229050,2,JIM DOYLE,,3 03/03/93,00:04:37,229051,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 46112 03/01/93 WARD CHRISTENSEN => MIKE ISAACS: "INTERNET" 46113 03/01/93 WARD CHRISTENSEN => CHAD FLETCHER: "BBS LISTS" 46114 03/01/93 WARD CHRISTENSEN => JANET BALAS: "IN THE BEGINNING." 46115 03/01/93 WARD CHRISTENSEN => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "(CONT'D)" 46116 03/02/93 ROY LIPSCOMB => TONY ANTONUCCI: "PHOTOS" 46117 03/02/93 MICHAEL SHARTIAG => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/CARPAL TUNNEL?" - End of summary - Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts. Msg 46112 is 08 line(s) on 03/01/93 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to MIKE ISAACS re: INTERNET Hope you don't mine me changing the subject from "Welcome" to "Internet", seems more appropriate. Please define what you mean by "ON" the internet. Do you want to do anonymous FTP, telnet, rlogin, etc? Or just be able to send and receive email from other folks? Fellow CBBS-inventor Randy Suess runs a Unix system, but he may be shutting off access- seems he has some problems with his internet feed, and may have to "buy" one and limit access. Msg 46113 is 04 line(s) on 03/01/93 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to CHAD FLETCHER re: BBS LISTS Used to have one here, but sorry, don't have it any longer. I went into Magellan to search on "bbs list msg" and found a hig: "call Stillwaters BBS (708-403-2826)" They have the list we used to carry. Msg 46114 is 30 line(s) on 03/01/93 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to JANET BALAS re: IN THE BEGINNING. Gee, I'm getting Carpal Tunnel answering that question, seems the 15th anniversary is generating a lot of "tell me how it all started" messages, heh. Sorry if that came across negative. I should have a "canned answer" for you, but I don't. Actually it all began simply because the technology was there - i.e. Randy Suess (co-inventor) and I each had an "extra" machine, Hayes had come up with a hobbyist modem that could be computer controlled, and I had the skills to write the thousands of lines of assembly language code to make it all happen. I conceived it as strictly a message system, in spite of the fact that I'd invented what became the XMODEM protocol about 6 months before. This was because file transfers would be a significant impedement to the folks wanting to do messaging. To this day, this system still doesn't support file transfers (except for myself to back it up or upload new versions of the software). As to how it has changed over time, well, THIS system is a bit of history and really HASN'T changed over time. I have a lot of ideas for the future - for example, why not allow true "meetings" to be done electronically. Lets take a computer club for example. Ours has a "random access" period in which people can talk about anything they want, then we have a formal speaker - or a panel of club members, etc. So, I ask myself: can this be done ONLINE? It would have the advantage of being more ecological - people not having to drive - and could be done in a way that a real meeting couldn't - i.e. it is often too hard for "everyone to make it on the same day and same time". Folks could prepare "presentations", with the BBS downloading graphics, etc. In an "ideal" environment, they could make annotations on the graphics, or point to something and ask a question, etc. Msg 46115 is 22 line(s) on 03/01/93 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: (CONT'D) Thus the idea is, you could, via BBS, take something that exists in "real life", and make it more accessible (people need not even live in the same area nor be in the same time-zone). Handicapped people are particularly freed by BBSs - we had a guy on CBBS for years when it came out that he is deaf - yet really a full BBS participant. (not that it solves ALL handicapped problems - though one day I did help a blind guy get a speech synthesizer going on his computer, so he could participate in the BBSs). Libraries: Hmmm. There could be an effort to find the BBSs that specialize - such as a geneological based BBS. There are many BBSs dedicated to specialized hobbies - not all are sort of "pure computer geek" oriented like this one. - My first job was in a library - we rented the upper flat in the family two-flat to the local librarian, and I worked there for a couple enjoyable years. My how things have changed - from a totally paper card catalog, etc - to - well, I guess it depends upon the budget what the limit is. I imagine some day libraries - at least their reference abilities - will be replaced by CD Roms and "jukebox" players - people can search electronically very quickly, and pull off citations electronically perhaps to a diskette for inclusion in their word processors, etc. Msg 46116 is 05 line(s) on 03/02/93 from ROY LIPSCOMB to TONY ANTONUCCI re: PHOTOS Tony, the photos look good, espcially the one of Marie. Now if I can only get them printed. (CSHOW doesn't have that option in the unregistered version; I haven't tried VPIC yet.) Boy, being on a computer monitor is almost as good as being on TV! Msg 46117 is 08 line(s) on 03/02/93 from MICHAEL SHARTIAG to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/CARPAL TUNNEL? Ward, I don't have any idea what the ideal height is, but from the typing wrist suports I have seen, they sit infront of the keyboard, and are basically level with the height of the keyboard case. Quill, Office World ( Max this week?) all have these things. Some have adjustable height It sounds like tendon infalamation, buy hey, " I'm not a real doctor, but I play one on TV." Thats where I ended up; with a brace and anti- inflamitory drugs. dup. chars. >Function:? PROTOCOL: ALT COMPRESSION: NONE CONNECT 2400/ARQ CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 03/03/93 23:17:24 Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U ?^U ?^U ?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss Logging name to disk... You are caller 229059; next msg =46120; 373 active msgs. Prev. call 03/03/93 @ 00:04, next msg was 46118 Recording logon for next time. Use FULL? to check assignments ?^U ?xxxxx "Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to >Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short LOG. 11 KILLED. 17 SUMMARY. 25 29051,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#46118,8 03/03/93,08:25:03,229052,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,, 03/03/93,10:25:11,229053,1,JERRY HASLETT,, 03/03/93,10:32:01,229054,1,JERRY HASLETT,,9 03/03/93,13:58:16,229055,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,,1 03/03/93,14:45:18,229056,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2 03/03/93,15:29:22,229057,2,BILL MICHAELS,Chicago IL,6 03/03/93,22:26:09,229058,2,JANET BALAS,, E#46119,15 03/03/93,23:17:28,229059,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 46118 03/03/93 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF" 46119 03/03/93 JANET BALAS => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/IN THE BEGINNING." - End of summary - Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts. Msg 46118 is 22 line(s) on 03/03/93 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to ALL re: TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF HI. CBBS usage is going down - partly because of the long time it was down, but partly because it is somewhat "boring". Well, lets start by telling a little about ourselves. I guess I'm willing to talk TODAY, because this week IBM did some massive cuts - I think St Louis went form 800 to 425 or something like that! I don't know about Chicago - only know of two people who actually were declared "surplus", but I'm sure the number is more in the dozens if not hundreds. I am happy to say I "made the cut" so WILL be able to celebrate my 25th anniversary with IBM this June 17th, in spite of the fact that budget cuts have done away with the somewhat extravagant dinner they used to throw. I think I'll just ask some friends to come to the BangKok Thai restaurant to help me celebrate. I will be working with the Media and Distribution industry segments (RR Donnelley, Leo Burnette, Jewel, Dominicks, WW Granger, and a list of a dozen or so) and will specialize in high-end servers (minimum 486). IBM re-accounted something related to vacations this year, so I would now have 12.5 EXTRA days to take! Not bad! Time to start putting in some 4 days weeks (i.e. only 40 hours, not 50, heh). So, tell "us" about you! What are you "into"? Work, hobby, whatever. Hobby-wise, I'm into C programming, enjoy toying with Ray tracing programs, CAD, etc, and am a "Lantastic" fan. Msg 46119 is 08 line(s) on 03/03/93 from JANET BALAS to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/IN THE BEGINNING. Ward, Thanks for the help. I'm sorry if I'm one of many inquiring minds, but I do appreciate your taking the time to talk about the start of your system. I am still amazed by the possibilities that telecommunica- tions opens up and see my profession as a librarian changing radically in the near future. Unlike many of my colleagues, I am excited by the changes and anxious to help others utilize the technology effectively. Thanks again, Janet dup. chars. >Function:?