CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 02/08/90 21:09:41 What is your FIRST name?^U ?^U ?^U ?ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss Logging name to disk... You are caller 212596; next msg =43174; 377 active msgs. Prev. call 02/07/90 @ 22:43, next msg was 43165 Recording logon for next time. Use FULL? to check assignments ?^U ?xxxxx "Mine" command checking >Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-30 log,ward c;or;*;short LOG. 13 KILLED. 20 SUMMARY. 25 WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#43151,6 02/06/90,21:24:46,212531,2,STAN BEGGS,,2 02/06/90,21:36:48,212532,1,JERRY HASLETT,,21 02/07/90,23:34:21,212571,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, E#43165, E#43166, E#43167, E#43168, E#43169, E#43170, 02/08/90,00:15:13,212572,3,BOB LYONS,,6 02/08/90,01:13:55,212573,2,MARC BROOKS,St. Louis/ MO,3 02/08/90,01:56:51,212574,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,5 02/08/90,05:48:56,212575,2,ALEX ZELL,,13 ]Hah! Goes to show how long since I looked in keywords. That's how I learned to do r;*;+;+;+: -- must be at least ? 6, 7, 8 ? years ago? I knew several CBBSs and used them all so as not to stay too long on one while reading keywords and figuring out how things worked. There was CASAT and another (Wertheimer??). ALEX ZELL, 02/08/90,06:31:49,212576,9,THOM QUICK,,3 02/08/90,07:03:09,212577,1,BOB TASA,Chicago, 02/08/90,07:19:39,212578,1,JOHN PARKHILL,,1 02/08/90,08:04:10,212579,2,LARRY HITZ,,3 02/08/90,10:06:51,212580,2,GENE BACKLIN,,1 02/08/90,12:07:16,212581,2,PHIL JERN,,5 02/08/90,12:35:42,212582,2,JOE HOLEWINSKI,,2 02/08/90,12:56:50,212583,2,JIM DURKIN,, E#43171,14 02/08/90,13:11:40,212584,2,DENNIS STAHL,,8 02/08/90,15:02:06,212585,1,JERRY HASLETT,, E#43172,7 02/08/90,15:30:29,212586,1,SIDNEY BRATKOVICH,,2 02/08/90,16:13:20,212587,1,JEFF SIMON,,1 02/08/90,16:35:33,212588,2,JIM POLOUS,,1 02/08/90,17:29:54,212589,2,THOM QUICK,,4 02/08/90,18:53:27,212590,1,JERRY HASLETT,,1 02/08/90,19:43:22,212591,1,DAN PRICE,,5 02/08/90,20:01:16,212592,1,STEVE GRONOWSKI,orland pk.,7 02/08/90,20:14:57,212593,2,BILL WOLFF,, E#43173,15 02/08/90,20:52:02,212594,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,6 02/08/90,20:58:44,212595,1,JERRY HASLETT,,2 02/08/90,21:09:45,212596,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 43165 02/07/90 WARD CHRISTENSEN => JERRY HASLETT: "R/3.5 IN. DRIVES" 43166 02/07/90 WARD CHRISTENSEN => GERALD PINE: "R/8-INCH DRIVE JUMPER SETTINGS" 43167 02/07/90 WARD CHRISTENSEN => MURRAY ARNOW: "R/ZENITH 386 - GOOD?" 43168 02/07/90 WARD CHRISTENSEN => BRENT JONES: "R/WANT TO CODE?" 43169 02/07/90 WARD CHRISTENSEN => BRENT JONES: "R/CLIPPER" 43170 02/07/90 WARD CHRISTENSEN => GARY ELFRING: "R/DESKJET SALE" 43171 02/08/90 JIM DURKIN => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "XMODEM FILE TRANSFERS" 43172 02/08/90 JERRY HASLETT => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "3.5 IN. DRIVES" 43173 02/08/90 BILL WOLFF => JERRY HASLETT: "R/3.5 IN. DRIVES" - End of summary - Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts. Msg 43165 is 05 line(s) on 02/07/90 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to JERRY HASLETT re: R/3.5 IN. DRIVES A 1.44M drive compared to a 720K? - probably has a higher quality (read: "Finer gap") head; - can write at 500KHz (vs 250 for 720K) - probably has a media sensor to detect 1.44M diskettes and auto-switch densities based upon that. Msg 43166 is 04 line(s) on 02/07/90 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to GERALD PINE re: R/8-INCH DRIVE JUMPER SETTINGS You ARE using double sided MEDIA, no? The single sided drives have the sensor hole in a different place than the double sided diskettes, and some drives might detect that and not allow double sided unless they see the index hole coming from the correct LED. Msg 43167 is 06 line(s) on 02/07/90 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to MURRAY ARNOW re: R/ZENITH 386 - GOOD? Yes, for sure I realize these are the auctioned-off machine. I guess I just don't understand WHAT Zenith did with this auction. I thought it meant they were getting out of the PC business, but apparently not - just buying some capital for other uses? So it is probably "OK", but rather old technology, OK, thanks. 14# or what ever it was seemed kind of heavy. Msg 43168 is 17 line(s) on 02/07/90 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to BRENT JONES re: R/WANT TO CODE? GV has lots going for it, but also much frustration. I don't know what do to. I use it on a laptop, because I CAN NOT USE IT on my main system since it kills software Carousel, but more severely, it kills switching to the resident mainframe commo session. Perhaps I should talk to John on CIS with a couple of the most severe points and see if there's something I am doing wrong. For example, the sideways scrolling annoys me TERRIBLY, so getting rid of that would be a good start. But more fundamental things like having my keyboard redef "global" are probably not the kind of thing he's likely to want to code. Every time I import data into SideKick I'm reminded of how dumb their implementation of programmable keyboard is - here I've defined all my own keystrokes (for up, down, left, right, mark, cut to buffer, etc) but when I hit F4 from SideKick, then I have to remember the obscure WordStar cursor move and block start/end keys! What BUGS ME is that they WASTE THE SPACE of having two totally different keyboard maps! (unless the WS stuff in "clip" is hard-coded). Msg 43169 is 10 line(s) on 02/07/90 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to BRENT JONES re: R/CLIPPER I like the idea of using a Turbo language with its BGI linked in to show the graphic. An alternative would be to use GRASPRT which is the give-awayable part of GRASP an animation package, but at almost 80K it would be overkill. Fox comes with an application generator - edit, search, stored queries, labels, reports, browse, etc. All canned. All you do is make the screens with FoxView (very nice, BTW - move, change auto labels from left side to top, or put in your own text, or no text, you can have boxes, etc). FoxPro apparently blows FOX+ away allowing multiple overlapping windows, etc. Wish I had an application - so far my Fox Pro is still in the box. Msg 43170 is 05 line(s) on 02/07/90 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to GARY ELFRING re: R/DESKJET SALE Do you think the DeskJet rebates - uh, what's the word - "portend" the coming of yet another model? Perhaps they'll make a big "splash" (heh heh) about a permanent ink version? (but that SHOULD only be the cartridge, I'd think). Perhaps a postscript compatible one? (but that would take a meg of memory!) Msg 43171 is 05 line(s) on 02/08/90 from JIM DURKIN to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: XMODEM FILE TRANSFERS Using Xmodem protocol to transfer files across a straigt modem link there is no problem. When we insert a rate adapting step between the modems, the receiving end sends a nak, but the transmitting end does not respond to the nak. (This is using Smartcom III, set for 7-E-1). Can you help? Thank you. James Durkin. Msg 43172 is 03 line(s) on 02/08/90 from JERRY HASLETT to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: 3.5 IN. DRIVES Thanks for the info, Ward. Do you know of any reason why a 1.44M drive would not work satisfactorily for both 720k and also for 1.44M including for each read, write, format? Msg 43173 is 10 line(s) on 02/08/90 from BILL WOLFF to JERRY HASLETT re: R/3.5 IN. DRIVES The difference between 720K and 1.44 is denities. 720K is Double Density (DD) and 1.44 is QD. The reason any 720K disk drive may not read a 720K written with a 1.44K disk drive is because the head prints smaller. And sometimes the fat 720K head can't read it. But the skinny 1.44K drive can read both real well. The fix is to have one of each. SIDE NOTE: The C128 computer with 5.25 and 3.5" drives can read any MS-DOS DD format whether written with a 1.44K drive or not with some programming. Why CBM can get away with it and IBM and clones can't still boggle my mind. dup. chars. >Function:?