CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 12/12/89 21:01:06 Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U ?^U ?^U ?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss Logging name to disk... You are caller 211011; next msg =42879; 370 active msgs. Prev. call 12/09/89 @ 20:59, next msg was 42869 Recording logon for next time. Use FULL? to check assignments ?^U ?xxxxx "Mine" command checking for >Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-30 log,ward c;or;*;short LOG. 5 KILLED. 5 SUMMARY. 24 RD CHRISTENSEN,, ]S,MESSAGE.X40, ]S,MESSAGE.X42, ]S,MESSAGE.X44, ]S,MESSAGE.X46, E#42869, 12/09/89,21:11:54,210954,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,3 12/09/89,21:19:27,210955,1,JIM NETTER,chicago/il,30 12/09/89,21:46:35,210956,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1 12/10/89,00:51:16,210957,2,JOHN MASTERS,adsadfsad,2 12/10/89,01:16:11,210958,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,0 12/10/89,07:30:27,210959,2,ALEX ZELL,, 12/10/89,09:34:16,210960,2,RICHARD HINTON,, E#42870,3 12/10/89,09:52:42,210961,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,, E#42871,6 12/10/89,10:01:24,210962,1,FRED WALTZER,, 12/10/89,11:30:48,210963,2,BRIAN DEAR,la jolla/ {a,2 12/10/89,15:17:24,210964,1,JIM NETTER,, 12/10/89,15:28:57,210965,3,JOHN WILKERSON,, 12/10/89,15:41:18,210966,3,JOHN WILKERSON,,8 12/10/89,15:48:58,210967,1,BOB SULLIVAN,, E#42872, E#42873, E#42874,22 12/10/89,16:11:29,210968,1,BOB SULLIVAN,,1 12/10/89,19:24:18,210969,1,YOLANDA REYES,BLOOMINGDALE IL,9 12/10/89,20:04:38,210970,1,VINCE CARUSO,elmer/nj,4 12/10/89,20:14:09,210971,3,JIM COLLING,,7 12/10/89,21:12:13,210972,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2 12/10/89,21:20:18,210973,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,, E#42875,6 12/10/89,22:10:28,210974,2,BOB VON BORSTEL,,10 12/10/89,23:05:48,210975,1,JAMES OSADA,,5 12/10/89,23:55:43,210976,3,JIM JOINER,chicago, >Help: BOARD, >Help: 'B', >Help: NENNNNNNKJIRVMVCXC, >Help: MMMMM,39 12/11/89,00:49:58,210977,2,WILLIAM TINDALL,Chicago,10 12/11/89,01:12:13,210978,3,JIM JOINER,, ]CHAT: otherbulletonboards,14 12/11/89,01:30:36,210979,3,DAVE DAWSON,CHICAGO/IL,6 12/11/89,05:08:26,210980,2,PETE JONES,,1 12/11/89,07:08:21,210981,1,JOHN PARKHILL,,4 12/11/89,07:43:30,210982,1,JOHN PARKHILL,,2 12/11/89,08:55:35,210983,2,DEREK MACBETH,victoria/ bc,6 ]DEREK MACBETH, 12/11/89,09:01:45,210984,1,JEFF MARTIN,,2 12/11/89,11:32:17,210985,2,GARY ELFRING,,0 12/11/89,13:14:28,210986,2,ROGER HALE,chicago/ il,24 12/11/89,16:00:14,210987,3,CHUCK JONES,chicago ill,9 12/11/89,16:23:53,210988,2,RICHARD HINTON,,2 12/11/89,16:53:08,210989,1,LANE LARRISON,,1 12/11/89,19:43:27,210990,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1 12/11/89,19:55:17,210991,2,JAMES KARAGANIS,,5 12/11/89,21:41:40,210992,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,2 12/11/89,23:53:39,210993,2,PETE CANTELE,,3 12/12/89,00:29:38,210994,3,JIM JOINER,,6 12/12/89,00:39:12,210995,3,JIM JOINER,, ]CHAT: other bulleton boards, >Help: 1,SALE, >Help: BOARDS, 12/12/89,01:18:28,210996,3,JIM JOINER,, ]CHAT: other bulleton boards,23 12/12/89,02:13:52,210997,3,JIM JOINER,,6 12/12/89,05:13:26,210998,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,, E#42876,7 12/12/89,06:49:05,210999,1,MICHAEL MCDANIEL,,3 12/12/89,07:51:31,211000,2,RAJEEV BATRA,,2 12/12/89,09:45:31,211001,2,CHERYL SLUDER,chicago,18 12/12/89,11:19:37,211002,2,GARY ELFRING,,0 12/12/89,14:02:16,211003,2,CHERYL SLUDER,, E#42877, ]CHAT: Starting a BBS,40 12/12/89,14:48:10,211004,2,CHERYL SLUDER,,10 12/12/89,16:12:52,211005,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,1 12/12/89,16:14:02,211006,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,, E#42878,12 12/12/89,16:42:22,211007,1,KEVIN KING,,4 12/12/89,17:59:09,211008,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1 12/12/89,18:16:10,211009,2,MIKE COOK,,9 12/12/89,20:52:26,211010,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,3 12/12/89,21:01:10,211011,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,, 42869 12/09/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => JAMES SCHMIDT: "R/QUATTRO-PRO" 42870 12/10/89 RICHARD HINTON => ALL: "RAM EXPANSION SPEED" 42871 12/10/89 RICHARD GOZDAL => ALAN LAYA: "PROBAS" 42872 12/10/89 BOB SULLIVAN => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/PSION ORGANISER" 42873 12/10/89 BOB SULLIVAN => JIM FLANAGAN: "R/RE/ APPLE OUTLINER" 42874 12/10/89 BOB SULLIVAN => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/PSION ORGANISER" 42875 12/10/89 ERIC BOHLMAN => RICHARD HINTON: "R/RAM EXPANSION SPEED" 42876 12/12/89 JAMES SCHMIDT => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/QUATTRO-PRO" 42877 12/12/89 CHERYL SLUDER => ALL: "STARTING A BBS: NEED HELP!" 42878 12/12/89 JAMES SCHMIDT => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "IBM CORP PC BBS" - End of summary - Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts. Msg 42869 is 11 line(s) on 12/09/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN to JAMES SCHMIDT re: R/QUATTRO-PRO The manual states you must have 3M of disk space, recommends 4M. I don't recall seeing any options about demos and tutorials being optional. The samples take about 280K (with rounding to cluster, that might be about 300K) One of the reasons they recommend so much disk space is the excellent Bitstream fonts. I find that my originally-empty \quattro\font directory now contains about 480K of fonts. Every time you produce a font of a particular size, it creates it from the font outlines and stores them in this directory. I did a rough DIR with all "my" stuff, and the fonts removed, it was still about 2.7M. Msg 42870 is 07 line(s) on 12/10/89 from RICHARD HINTON to ALL re: RAM EXPANSION SPEED I just brought up my RAM memory on a 286 from 1 meg to 2.5 meg and everything has slowed down. Under one meg, everything went fast, now it is snails pace. Many programs say they recognize expanded memory, but really don't. I wonder if there is a hardware/software fix for this problem. (I am using a software expanded memory driver and a high memory driver for 64k of extended too under DOS 4,01) Thanks. Msg 42871 is 03 line(s) on 12/10/89 from RICHARD GOZDAL to ALAN LAYA re: PROBAS Am using ProBas "now" and read in the manual that "if you can imagine it, it can be done with ProBas". The graphics though is still tricky in QB. Msg 42872 is 17 line(s) on 12/10/89 from BOB SULLIVAN to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/PSION ORGANISER Yep, they are thicker than I would like. My application: Quick, portable data base and meeting reminder. My job changed recently and requires me to remember to attend a series of meetings in a variety of places. I set up an extra early meeting once and then forgot to show up. At this point I thought I better experiment with better organization. I went ahead and am trying a PSION for 30 days. My first one crashed several times, and the alarm is to quiet in noisy rooms. On the other hand it saved me from missing another important meeting. I don't have to walk around with an appointment book this way, but I'm not sure what the weight of the PSION will so to my sport coat pockets over time. I was just wondering if anyone else had experimented with this thing. By the way, CUCKOOS EGG is the best computer book I have read since HACKERS and The SOUL OF A NEW MACHINE. Am I early or late in finding out about this book? Msg 42873 is 01 line(s) on 12/10/89 from BOB SULLIVAN to JIM FLANAGAN re: R/RE/ APPLE OUTLINER Thanks much for the help. Msg 42874 is 03 line(s) on 12/10/89 from BOB SULLIVAN to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/PSION ORGANISER P.S. I also like the PSION Eprom set up - expensive though. Can you tell me anything about their new machine - for example, is it smaller? Msg 42875 is 08 line(s) on 12/10/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN to RICHARD HINTON re: R/RAM EXPANSION SPEED I assume that you mean that programs that use the services provided by your EMS emulator have slowed down; if programs that aren't calling on it have slowed down as well, then you've got purely hardware problems (did you change the wait-state setting on your motherboard)? If it's just the emulator that's gotten slow, it's probably because it has to keep track of more memory, and on a 286, moving things to/from extended memory is slow (even on my 386, a ramdisk set up in extended memory with VDISK isn't much, if at all, faster than my garden-variety ST251-1). Msg 42876 is 08 line(s) on 12/12/89 from JAMES SCHMIDT to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/QUATTRO-PRO Ward, Thank you for the information. Would the FONTS you refer to be built for Laser printers or for any displays and printouts. I have a dot matrix printer myself but I do display charts on my VGA display. Would the Bitstream fonts be exploited in this environment and therefore consume the additional disk space? Thanks again, James Msg 42877 is 06 line(s) on 12/12/89 from CHERYL SLUDER to ALL re: STARTING A BBS: NEED HELP! Looking for reference material on starting a BBS. Tried to find Bowen's "The Complete Electronic Bulletin Board Starter Kit," but can't{ find in CHicago - need it immediately for research. Any other suggestions on on where I can find good, fast advice on hardware/software configurations (e.g., how to size the hardware, software alternatives, etc)? Please advise ASAP! Thanks! Msg 42878 is 28 line(s) on 12/12/89 from JAMES SCHMIDT to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: IBM CORP PC BBS Ward, I was reading a thread on another service when I came across a mention of an IBM Corporation run BBS for supporting PC's. I called thmber and was greeted with the official IBM Logo ( the one with the horizontal bars) and was allowed to register and scan the message and file sections. I also noticed that the latest DOS 4.0 CSD was also available for download along this a special program for handling the hidden files properly. I guess my question is twofold. 1) Is this BBS really run by IBM it has an ALTANTA GA. areacode 2) When did IBM policy change from equal treatment for all? I can remember some time ago you were explaining how IBM wouldn't make fixes available via modem as this would be considered preferential treatment for users with modems. I'm not complaining mind you just curious as to when IBM (if it is in fact IBM) had a change in position and what precipitated such a change? 3) The phone number(s) are: 404-988-2790 (Public Access) 404-988-1347 (Accesser Registration) 404-988-2778 (300->2400 Public Access) The first two lines support up to 9600 baud via Hayes Smartmodems (I think). Thanks again, James dup. chars. >Function:?