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Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net Internet Email, Editor................................lyle@FoxValley.net :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TABLE OF CONTENTS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ August 15, 2004 HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER---------------------------------------------[OPN] The Well Trained Farm Dog The Well Trained Apple II Dog A2 FORUM AT Syndicomm Online (A2Central.com) DISTILLATIONS------------[DAS] VNC Client for the IIgs Available in A2 Library------------------[VNC] Virtual Network Computing on the Apple II------------------------[VNC] Utility For LanceGS Ethernet Card Available in A2 Library--------[ULE] Changing MAC Addresses on a LanceGS------------------------------[CMA] Silvern Castle v8.1 Available in A2 Library----------------------[SC8] Huibert Aalbers Releases His Apple II Software as Freeware-------[HAF] ILLUMINATING THE LAMP-------------------------------------------------[ITL] An overview of GEnieLamp A2 and The Lamp! This series will continue in the September issue. ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM------------------------------------------[ANS] To Sign up for Syndicomm Online----------------------------------[TSU] Server Memory Upgraded-------------------------------------------[SMU] August 2004 Issue of Syndicommotion Ready------------------------[AIS] LETTERS TO THE EDITOR-------------------------------------------------[LTE] Letter to the Editor Denver Apple II User Group An Invitation KFEST 2004------------------------------------------------------------[KFF] Winners of the Annual GShisen Contest----------------------------[AGC] Back Home From KFest---------------------------------------------[BHK] KFest 2004 Pictures----------------------------------------------[KFP] First Two DVDs of KFest 2004 Available---------------------------[DVD] KFEST 2005------------------------------------------------------------[KF5] KansasFest 2005 to be Held July 19-24th--------------------------[TBH] New Website for KansasFest---------------------------------------[NWK] Suggestions for KansasFest 2005----------------------------------[SK5] EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] [*] [*] [*] READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make """"""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find something like: EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate [INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA]. [OPN]------------------------------- HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER | ------------------------------------ From The Editor """"""""""""""" by Lyle Syverson The Well Trained Farm Dog ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From High Above The Rock River we notice that many of the people on the trail along the river are walking their dogs. That brings to mind the dog we had back on the farm. A farm is a great place for a dog... plenty of room to run... lots of things for a dog to do. No need to keep it on a leash or in a pen. And a well trained dog is a great asset to have around the farm. Duties of our dog included... get the cows from the pasture at milking time... carry messages to and from the fields... announce visitors arriving at the farmstead... let strangers know that any foul play at the farm would have consequences... entertain the children with standard tricks such as 'roll over' and 'beg'. There was also time for the dog to indulge himself with his own activities. Chasing rabbits. Chasing cars and trucks down the road. The Well Trained Apple II Dog ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In Apple II land we have a well trained dog called Bernie ][ The Rescue. If you own a IIgs you might want to consider acquiring Bernie. Depending on the Power Mac you choose for the "Dog House", you will have a fast and/or portable IIgs. See these URLS for more information: The Bernie ][ The Rescue Web Site http://www.bernie.gs/Bernie/ Bernie ][ The Rescue Starter Kit http://store.syndicomm.com/product_info.php?products_id=181 Bernie ][ The Rescue Starter Kit CD-ROM http://users.foxvalley.net/~joko/bernie.html GS ROM Grabber http://store.syndicomm.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=16&products_id=169 [EOA] ASCII ART BEGINS _________ _ _ _ |__ __| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |___ ____ | | _____ __ ___ _ _ _____ | | | | | ___ \ / __ \ | | /____ \ | v v | | v ___ \ | | | | | | | | | /__\ \ | | ____| | | /\ /\ | | / \ \ | | | | | | | | | _____| | | / ___ | | || || | | | | | |_| | | | | | | | |_____ | |____ | |__| | | || || | | \___/ / _ |_| |_| |_| \______| |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/ |_| | | | | |_| ASCII ART ENDS [EOA] [DAS]---------------------------------------------- DISTILLATIONS FROM The A2 FORUM at Syndicomm.com | (A2Central.com) | --------------------------------------------------- by Lyle Syverson [VNC] VNC CLIENT FOR THE IIgs AVAILABLE IN A2 LIBRARY """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" There is a new upload in the telecommunications/applications/16-bit directory: File: VNCview.GS.bxy Size: 27904 Date: Aug 2 VNCview GS is a Virtual Network Computing (VNC) client for the Apple IIgs. It allows you to display and interact with the graphical desktop environment of a computer connected to the IIgs through a network. It can work with any remote computer running VNC server software, which is available for a wide variety of popular platforms, including Mac OS X, Mac OS 9, Microsoft Windows, and *nix systems using the X Window System. Uploaded by the author, Stephen Heumann. Tony Ward, A2 Librarian (2.TONY,Cat 2, Top 37, Msg 33) [EOA] [VNC] VIRTUAL NETWORK COMPUTING ON THE Apple II """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I downloaded VNCview.GS and I have to say that I am really impressed by it. I installed a VNC server on a Windows machine and was able to connect to it from VNCview.GS with no problems. I have put up a screen shot of Internet Explorer running: http://www.syndicomm.com/~geoff/vncgsscreen.gif This was within minutes after connecting for the first time--I was using the GS 320x200 resolution. Here is another screen shot of VNCview.GS running KEGS on the windows box: http://www.syndicomm.com/~geoff/vncgsscreen2.gif Setting up a VNC server was easy--I adjusted the configuration as needed and activated it. And on the VNCview.GS side, after making sure I typed in the correct password, I was able to control my Windows box. For software that is labeled alpha, I found it to work correctly with the first attempt of use. It properly downsized the 1600x1200x24bit desktop into 2bit/4bit native GS resolution modes. I have often heard remarks such as "I wonder what it would be like to run Netscape on an Apple IIgs". Well, with VNCview.GS, this is now a possibility. Kudos to Stephen Heumann for adding a new remote connectivity option not available before on an Apple II. Geoff (GEOFF, Cat 11, Top 37, Msg 1) >>>>> """"" I haven't tried it yet, but you can bet I'm going to. This is very exciting, and really cool. I've heard a couple of people say they've managed to crash it; hopefully they'll post notes about how, so the problems can be addressed. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 37, Msg 2) >>>>> """"" I've got it running fairly well. I've managed to crash it twice. Once switching resolutions while connected, and the other just seemed to happen while typing on the PC...the GS dropped into GSBug. It's pretty impressive and really wasn't anything I'd expect the GS to be able to pull off. A nifty piece of programming. Thanks for this software!! Dain Neater (A2.DAIN, Cat 11, Top 37, Msg 3) >>>>> """"" I haven't seen it crash on me at all. I can get it to hang on a regular basis. It just means different area of memory is getting corrupted which generates different results. It will hang if I switch resolution or color depth if connected to the VNC server. Good advice is to close your connection to the VNC server before making such changes. Any other time is not 100% reproducible. My system isn't the best for testing. I have made changes to the LanceGS link layer driver that I use and I haven't fully tested it to determine that the driver is manipulating memory correctly. I also had packet sniffing disabled so I don't know what the server or client was doing right before or during the hangs. Geoff (GEOFF, Cat 11, Top 37, Msg 4) >>>>> """"" This is amazing. I have not yet had a chance to try it out but I will hopefully have an opportunity this weekend. Great work by Stephen. This opens whole new networking doors for the IIgs. Ryan Chief Sysop (A2.RYAN, Cat 11, Top 37, Msg 5) >>>>> """"" I'm glad that all of you are enjoying VNCview GS. I've posted a slightly updated version of it at: http://www.syndicomm.com/~s.heumann/VNCviewGSa2.bxy The major new feature in version 1.0a2 is the Hextile encoding. This is an alternative way of sending pixel data that may be faster than Raw encoding (which was always used in 1.0a1) in some circumstances, although it probably won't be faster if you have a high-bandwidth connection. This version also fixes a bug potentially causing the second and subsequent connections not to work properly and includes an enhancement that should make the display update faster when scrolling rapidly between different portions of the server's screen. As for those of you experiencing problems, please post here or email (to the address in the README) a detailed description of the problem and how to reproduce it so that I can attempt to address it. Stephen Heumann (S.HEUMANN, Cat 11, Top 37, Msg 6) >>>>> """"" Could someone explain what VNC is? -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 37, Msg 7) >>>>> """"" There's a pretty nice introduction here: https://engineering.purdue.edu/ECN/Resources/KnowledgeBase/Docs/20030911152 834 Think PC Anywhere, think Apple Remote Access. Ryan Chief Sysop (A2.RYAN, Cat 11, Top 37, Msg 8) >>>>> """"" I installed a VNC server on my iMac, and was able to type into ProTERM Mac from my GS keyboard, and even control Firefox with it. Fantastic! Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Fri 6 Aug 04 9:11:09 pm cknoblo@cox.com - Via Spectrum v2.5.3 & SOAR v1.0b10 On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Sunday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com (CARLK, Cat 11, Top 37, Msg 9) >>>>> """"" The only way I crashed it was starting and then quitting EGOed. But that wasn't really a fair test. :) Changing resolution on the Mac breaks the connection, but a simple disconnect/connect fixes it. I'm looking forward to new versions with convenience features like storing a list of servers. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Fri 6 Aug 04 9:16:29 pm cknoblo@cox.com - Via Spectrum v2.5.3 & SOAR v1.0b10 On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Sunday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com (CARLK, Cat 11, Top 37, Msg 10) [EOA] [ULE] UTILITY FOR LanceGS ETHERNET CARD AVAILABLE IN A2 LIBRARY """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" There is a new upload in the telecommunications/applications/16-bit directory: File: lancehack.bxy Size: 2432 Date: Aug 2 This is my 2004 KFest HackFest project. This tool allows the changing of the MAC address on an LanceGS ethernet card. This is useful also for those LanceGS cards which lost their EEPROM settings and a MAC address can be added again. When editing the MAC address, the escape key will exit the program and the delete key is used to back up. Uploaded by the author, Geoff Weiss. Tony Ward, A2 Librarian (A2.TONY, Cat 2, Top 37, Msg 35) [CMA] CHANGING MAC ADDRESSES ON A LanceGS """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I uploaded my hackfest project to a2central. Watch for the appropriate forum topic when the upload becomes available to use. As a reminder, this tool allows the changing of MAC addresses on a LanceGS. Geoff (GEOFF, Cat 20, Top 13, Msg 75) >>>>> """"" Even though lancehack is filed in the a2central library as 16-bit software, it really is 8-bit software and should work on any Apple II that is LanceGS compatible. It shows that Applesoft is simple and powerful enough to write code for the LanceGS. So who wants to write TCP/IP software in BASIC? Sample code can found at http://members.lycos.co.uk/leeedavison/6502/suprchips/network/source.html (uses a different BASIC and a different ethernet controller). Geoff (GEOFF, Cat 20, Top 13, Msg 77) >>>>> """"" It has come to my attention that there is a concern about the use of lancehack. The software does not provide any warning that you are about to make any changes to your LanceGS card. It becomes the user responsibility to know their original MAC address if it gets changed "accidentally". I take no responsibility if any LanceGS cards fail with the use of this program. It is to be used at the sole risk of any LanceGS owner. If there is any apprehension with the operation of lancehack, do not use it. Geoff (GEOFF, Cat 20, Top 13, Msg 80) >>>>> """"" It should be pointed out that since this is a "hack", its use is not supported by ///SHH Systeme either. :) Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 20, Top 13, Msg 81) [EOA] [SC8] Silvern Castle v8.1 AVAILABLE IN A2 LIBRARY """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" There is a new upload in the games/adventure/prodos8 directory: File: scupdv81.bxy Size: 343936 Date: Aug 10 This is version 8.1 of the popular game Silvern Castle. It contains numerous bug fixes, changes, and new features including: New preferences: Preload /RAM; difficulty mode; auto-unlock doors Stuff changed: Enhanced special ability weapons, revamped treasure chest routines, and more. Uploaded on behalf of the author, Jeff Fink. Tony Ward, A2 Librarian (A2.TONY, Cat 2, Top 37, Msg 36) [EOA] [HAF] Huibert Aalbers RELEASES HIS Apple II SOFTWARE AS FREEWARE """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I don't remember if this has been mentioned here before, but Huibert Aalbers has released all of his Apple II software, including the popular SoundSmith, as freeware: http://www.huibert-aalbers.com Tony Ward (A2.TONY, Cat 15, Top 3, Msg 33) [EOA] [ITL]------------------------ ILLUMINATING THE LAMP | ----------------------------- An overview of GEnieLamp A2 and The Lamp! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ By Steven Weyhrich The series ILLUMINATING THE LAMP will continue in the September issue. [EOA] [ANS]------------------------------- ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM | ------------------------------------ by Lyle Syverson [TSU] TO SIGN UP FOR SYNDICOMM ONLINE """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Please visit our web site at http://www.syndicomm.com for information or to sign up! (Logon message) [EOA] [SMU] Server Memory Upgraded """""""""""""""""""""" This morning I installed a memory upgrade (tripling the amount of memory in our server!) that should noticeably improve performance of all our services. Enjoy! Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, HelpDesk, Cat 5, Top 5, Msg 25) [EOA] [AIS] August 2004 Issue of Syndicommotion Ready """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" The August 2004 (Volume 3, Number 8) issue of Syndicommotion has been emailed to subscribers. The HTML edition can be found online at the following URL: http://www.syndicomm.com/syndicommotion/v3n8.html or by selecting menu option #3 from Page 2 on Syndicomm Online (type "m2;3" without the quotes at any menu prompt). (KGAGNE, HelpDesk, Cat 5, Top 4, Msg 22) [EOA] [LTE]------------------------------- LETTERS TO THE EDITOR | ------------------------------------ LETTER TO THE EDITOR ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Ion D Holcombe Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:04:50 -0700 To: thelamp@sheppyware.net Subject: Denver Apple II user group? I am looking to hook up with a apple II user group. Can you give me info on a group that meets in the Denver metro plex or denver proper. Thanks Doug Holcombe [EOA] [AUG] Denver Apple II User Group ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Doug, I was not able to locate an Apple II user group that meets in the Denver area. First I went to www.A2central.com and used the link to the user group locator. No listings for Colorado. A Google search for "Denver Apple II user group" brings up several Mac user groups but no Apple II user groups. Lyle Syverson Editor, _The Lamp!_ published monthly at: http://lamp.a2central.com/ AN INVITATION ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Express your opinions about the comings and goings in the world of the Apple II computers. Send your comments to Lyle Syverson, Editor The Editor reserves the right to edit any material submitted. The Editor reserves the right to reject any material he considers unsuitable for publication in _The Lamp!_. [EOA] [KFF]------------------------------ KFest 2004 | ----------------------------------- [AGC] Winners of the Annual GShisen Contest """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Here are the results of the final round of the annual GShisen contest: Carl Knoblock 3:52 Bruce Baker 4:50 Geoff Weiss 5:07 Congratulations to our finalists! -Ken (Ken Gagne, KFest List) [EOA] [BHK] BACK HOME FROM KFest """""""""""""""""""" I made it back from an abbreviated Kfest visit. It was great to see all the old friends and it was also great to meet in person a few new friends. It was kind of sad that a few friends also couldn't be there this year. Cindy, Sarah (Melissa Missed you this year), Steve G, Michael, Jeff... I am sure there are more..I am just really tired:) Right now all plans are go for 2005. Let's try to get everyone back and maybe a few new attendees. Mark your Calendars, iCal's, Palm Pilots, Newtons, PocketPCs, etc. Because KFest 2005 is July 19th-24th. Dain (A2.DAIN, Cat 5, Top 6, Msg 16) >>>>> """"" I think I figured out why my razor broke on the last day of KFest--I let Dave borrow it ;) The Knoblocks and I enjoyed a leisurely lunch at the airport--I ended up footing the bill for Dave since he had to run to catch a plane. When did the previous year's roaster had to buy lunch for the following year's roaster? I got home in the wee hours of the morning. The driver of the shuttle van that I took had been driving for 19 hours by the time I got on board. His driving was much worse then what you have seen from me--for him, things like speed limits, speed humps, stop signs, and traffic lights are only suggestions. I was most concerned about random drivings running in front of the van and his response to something like that. Fortunately, the roadkill quota took place before we got there and a car in front of us slowed us down when a dead adult deer was in our lane. (GEOFF, Cat 5, Top 6, Msg 42) >>>>> """"" Sharon & I left Geoff at his terminal, and headed north. We filled up at Grandview, MO, since the low fuel warning had come on just a few miles before we got to the airport. I still felt like driving when we stopped at the first rest stop, but pulled off at a gas station/antique mall/fireworks shop/quickie mart a while later, because I was getting sleepy. Sharon drove from there to just south of Council Bluffs. We arrived home just after 7pm, and I was on line before 9. Finished unpacking most of the stuff by then. When I first started the iMac at KFest, it didn't want to boot. After about 4 tries, it made it and worked fairly well after that. At home again, it started fine the first time and has been fine ever since. I guess it just doesn't like to travel. On Monday, I picked up Tony Diaz at the airport in Omaha and we visited the Strategic Air & Space Museum. On the way back to the airport, we had Sharon join us for an early dinner at Valentino's. I helped him with his luggage and watched him load and preflight the plane, Then watched him taxi off towards the runway. Today, Tuesday, I napped when I should have been mowing the lawn. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Tue 27 Jul 04 9:43:04 pm cknoblo@cox.com - Via Spectrum v2.5.3 & SOAR v1.0b10 On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Sunday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com (CARLK, Cat 5, Top 6, Msg 46) >>>>> """"" I got home on Wednesday afternoon after about a month on the road. Aside from KansasFest, I also went to Hackers on Planet Earth, Vintage Computer Festival East, and MacWorld Boston. While all of those are bigger than KansasFest (VCF just barely), they are by no means better. I ended up sleeping earlier than I ever did at KansasFest for the first couple of nights; after sufficient ridicule from my unnamed roommate, I got better the last few nights. I'm hoping I'm rejuvenated enough from that vacation to get my act back in order and get some projects done in time for KansasFest 2005. Ryan Chief Sysop Veteran of a decade of KansasFests (A2.RYAN, Cat 5, Top 6, Msg 49) [EOA] [KFP] KFest 2004 PICTURES """"""""""""""""""" I've posted my few pictures at this location: http://homepage.mac.com/sdweyhrich/PhotoAlbum8.html Thanks to all who organized and executed this event! Steven Weyhrich --< Apple II History http://apple2history.org (A2HISTORY, Cat 5, Top 6, Msg 41) >>>>> """"" In addition to Steve's photos, here are the URLs to some other online albums: Ken Gagne: http://www.syndicomm.com/~kgagne/kfest2004/ Bruce Baker: http://www.hal-pc.org/~bbaker/kfest2004-1.html Dean Nichols: http://homepage.mac.com/cscug/KFESTBBQ/ http://homepage.mac.com/cscug/KFEST2/ (KGAGNE, Cat 5, Top 6, Msg 43) >>>>> """"" Oh, and here are some pictures from the week before KFest, when I had Andy, Jeri, Ryan, and Kelvin Sherlock staying at my place as we attended MacWorld, Vintage Computer Fest (with Hans), and the MIT Swapfest, among various social activities: http://www.syndicomm.com/~kgagne/kenfest2004/ (KGAGNE, Cat 5, Top 6, Msg 44) [EOA] [DVD] FIRST TWO DVDs OF KFest 2004 AVAILABLE """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" We've released disc 1 of our KFest 2004 line of DVDs. Viewable on any DVD player (except the really old ones that choke on DVD-R media), the disc includes the roast, certain announcements, prize awards, Sharon Knoblock's session on Genealogy, and some after-hours stuff including a look at Hans Franke's Replica-1. To order, visit . Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 24, Top 19, Msg 7) >>>>> """"" Disc 2 of our KFest 2004 DVD set is out: It includes Code Secrets of Wolf 3D, LANceGS Programming, and Hi-Fi WiFi. There are a few minutes of bonus footage as well, including after-hours goings-on around the dorm at Avila University. http://store.syndicomm.com/product_info.php?products_id=231 Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 24, Top 19, Msg 8) [EOA] [KF5]------------------------------ KFest 2005 | ----------------------------------- [TBH] KansasFest 2005 to be Held JULY 19-24th """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Mark your calendar and start saving some money. [NWK] NEW WEBSITE FOR KansasFest """""""""""""""""""""""""" This just in.... The KansasFest web site has just been overhauled. Check it out. http://www.kfest.org Enjoy, Dain Neater (A2.DAIN, Cat 5, Top 7, Msg 7) [EOA] [SK5] SUGGESTIONS FOR KansasFest 2005 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" On the way to the airport this year, we passed Worlds of Fun, a pretty big amusement park in Kansas City. We watched the descent of The Mamba, a 205 foot tall roller coaster. It looked like so much fun! The Mamba has appeared on a list of the top ten steel roller coasters in the US. Dave Miller expressed interest in visiting the park so I was wondering if there are others who would like to do an all day visit during KFest 2005? Wednesday or Thursday would be the best days to attend to avoid the weekend crowd. I realize that the older crowd or those of certain body types may not be as interested in attending. Retail price for the 2004 season is $37 for the land park and $25 for the water park. Discounts can be gotten to lower the price to $24 for the land park and $20 for the water park. Expect a slightly higher price for the 2005 season. When budgeting for an amusement park, don't forget about costs for food, drinks, and parking. Park hours are from 10:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. so I figure we would leave Avila around 9:30 a.m. and spend all day at the park. Take a look at http://www.worlsoffun.com/ to see what is offered. I know it is early to commit to attend KFest 2005, but I would like to see who else would be interested in visiting this park. I have no problems organizing this event. Since it is impossible to predict the weather this far in advance, plans may need to be canceled due to rain--one has to be flexible. Geoff (GEOFF, Cat 5, Top 7, Msg1) >>>>> """"" I would much prefer to organize a foursome to Minor Street Gold Course. Bruce (BBAKER, Cat 5, Top 7, Msg 2) >>>>> """"" Bruce, No reason both can't happen. -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 5, Top 7, Msg 3) >>>>> """"" World's of Fun used to be a staple of our Summer Vacations. I've never ridden the Mamba Coaster, but I have ridden the others. World's of Fun also has a fairly fun Wooden Coaster called "The Timberwolf" that while not as high and not upside down...still scares me:) Kfest 2005 is on my Calendar, I'm not so sure about World's of Fun yet...you never know though:) Dain (A2.DAIN, Cat 5, Top 7, Msg 4) >>>>> """"" The only golf I play is miniature golf. If there is interest in a links outing, there needs to be somebody to run with the idea and gage interest. Like my amusement park idea, I don't see this as something done by the KFest committee so it would have to be done by a KFest attendee. An amusement park outing might be able to get the KFest teen-agers to become more social with some of the other folks, assuming money is not a problem. Hanging out at Walmart at midnight is fun with the right crowd, but there are other things that can be done too. Geoff (GEOFF, Cat 5, Top 7, Msg 5) >>>>> """"" I would be much more interested in Worlds of Fun than golfing. I can't even play Mean 18 ;-) Ryan (A2.RYAN, Cat 5, Top 7, Msg 8) >>>>> """"" From having hosted about 10% of this year's KFesters at my place the week prior to KFest, I can say that it's a wonderful experience to engage in normal activities (shooting pool, playing golf, etc.) with abnormal people (as opposed to abnormal activities, like disk ninja :). I'd be up for such an outing next year. -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 5, Top 7, Msg 9) [EOA] [INN]------------------------------ EXTRA INNINGS | ----------------------------------- About The Lamp! The Lamp! is published on the fifteenth of every month on """"""""""""""" the WEB at: http://lamp.a2central.com/ This publication produced entirely with real or emulated Apple II computers using Appleworks 5.1 and Hermes. Apple II Forever! * The Lamp! is (c) copyright 2004 by Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W. All rights reserved. * To reach The Lamp! on Internet email send mail to thelamp@sheppyware.net * All issues of The Lamp! are available at The Lamp! Home Page, http://lamp.a2central.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opinions expressed herein are those of the individual authors, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of A2Central.com, Delphi Online Services, Syndicomm, Ryan M. Suenaga, or Lyle Syverson. 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