[HEA] _____________________ ___ _ |___ ______________| | | | | | | _ | | | | | || | | | | | | || | | | | | | || | | | ____ _ _ _ _ ______ | | | || | | | / __ \ | | / \_/ \ | ___ \ | | | || |__ ____ | | / / \ | | /\ /\ \ | | \ \ | | | || _ \ | _ \ | | \ \__/ | | | |_|| | | |__/ / | | | || | | || |_|| | | \___/|_| |_| |_| | ____/ |_| | || | | || |__ | |____________________ | | _ |__||_| |_|\____/ |________________________| | | |_| | | Lighting Your Apple II Path | | |_| ----------------------------------- >>> WELCOME TO THE LAMP! <<< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THE BEST OF THE A2 BULLETIN BOARD ON Syndicomm.com AND THE BEST OF THE DELPHI A2 AND A2PRO MESSAGE BOARDS "Teaching the Apple II user how to fish since 1998" :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The Lamp! An Onipa'a Software Production Vol. 4, No. 10 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Publisher................................Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. Editor.....................................................Lyle Syverson Internet Email, Publisher.........................thelamp@sheppyware.net Internet Email, Editor................................lyle@FoxValley.net :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TABLE OF CONTENTS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ October 15, 2001 HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER---------------------------------------------[OPN] Changes in the Valley Changes at Syndicomm Online A2 FORUM AT Syndicomm Online (A2Central.com) DISTILLATIONS Announcing Uploads to Library------------------------------------[AUL] FYI - Morgan Davis-----------------------------------------------[IMD] Updated Version of Python Script for A2 Forum--------------------[PSF] SOAR and Four Digit Page Numbers---------------------------------[SFN] SOAR v1b6 Available----------------------------------------------[SRA] Old Internet Tools Revisited-------------------------------------[OIT] Games You Have Programmed----------------------------------------[GYP] Hammurabi by Thomas A. Compter-----------------------------------[HTC] Silvern Castle v7.3 Coming---------------------------------------[SCC] File Submissions-------------------------------------------------[FSS] Lost Classic Project Info----------------------------------------[LCP] Apple Release Source Code for Some Items?------------------------[ARS] RAM for the IIgs-------------------------------------------------[RGS] Using PING-------------------------------------------------------[UPG] Learn to Program in Pascal Course--------------------------------[LPC] Prizm------------------------------------------------------------[PZM] SAFE Updated to v1.1---------------------------------------------[SFU] Pointer on the use of SAFE v1.1----------------------------------[UOS] Icons For Focus Drive--------------------------------------------[IFD] Focus Utilities Disk Online?-------------------------------------[FUO] The Future of Sweet16--------------------------------------------[FSS] Pointers - Programming in C--------------------------------------[PPC] Getting Started With REZ-----------------------------------------[GSR] PNG Files--------------------------------------------------------[PGF] Cell Phone for 911 Emergency Service Only------------------------[CPE] Copy/Backup Files From Unix Account------------------------------[CBU] Etiquette Question-----------------------------------------------[EQN] Multi-Player DIABLO on the Mac or PC-----------------------------[MPD] The SirCam Virus-------------------------------------------------[TSV] ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM The Life With Diabetes forum-------------------------------------[LWD] World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks--------------------------[TPA] The New Star Trek Series, Enterprise-----------------------------[STE] New Bulletin Board Software, Page 1600---------------------------[NSA] New Bulletin Board Software, Mac Bulletin Board------------------[NSB] New Bulletin Board Software Improvement--------------------------[NSC] DELPHI A2 DISTILLATIONS FTP Files to the IIe Via a Mac-----------------------------------[FTE] LETTERS TO THE EDITOR No Letters to the Editor This Month------------------------------[NLE] An Invitation----------------------------------------------------[LTE] KFEST 2002 Plan Ahead for K-Fest 2002---------------------------------------[PAK] EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] [*] [*] [*] READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make """"""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find something like: EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate [INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA]. [OPN]------------------------------- HIGH ABOVE THE ROCK RIVER | ------------------------------------ From The Editor """"""""""""""" by Lyle Syverson Changes in the Valley ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Changes are occurring in the valley seen from High Above The Rock River. The brisk nighttime air has sent a signal to the trees that the time has come shut down the function of the leaves and move their nutrients into the trunk and branches. This has produced a magnificant collage of color... all shades of reds, oranges, yellows, maroons, browns... even greens. Autumn at its best. Changes at Syndicomm Online ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Changes continue to occur at Syndicomm Online. More "interest forums" are being added. Web access to the bulletin boards is being implemented. See the Syndicomm announcements section of this issue for more details. All this in addition to the A2 forum with its busy bulletin board, chat area, and outstanding library of Apple II software. To subscribe to Syndicomm Online go to and select the link 'join'. To learn more about Syndicomm Online go directly to [EOA] ASCII ART BEGINS _________ _ _ _ |__ __| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |___ ____ | | _____ __ ___ _ _ _____ | | | | | ___ \ / __ \ | | /____ \ | v v | | v ___ \ | | | | | | | | | /__\ \ | | ____| | | /\ /\ | | / \ \ | | | | | | | | | _____| | | / ___ | | || || | | | | | |_| | | | | | | | |_____ | |____ | |__| | | || || | | \___/ / _ |_| |_| |_| \______| |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/ |_| | | | | |_| ASCII ART ENDS [EOA] --------------------------------------------------- DISTILLATIONS FROM The A2 FORUM at Syndicomm.com | (A2Central.com) | --------------------------------------------------- by Lyle Syverson [AUL] ANNOUNCING UPLOADS TO LIBRARY """"""""""""""""""""""""""""" The library staff will use this topic to announce new uploads to our library. As we did previously on Genie and Delphi, we will try to use a standard message format for the benefit of OLR designers. This topic will be closed, so if you upload a file to the library please remember to either upload a separate file description or send it to us via email (a2.library@syndicomm.com) so we can post it here for you. Tony Ward, A2 Librarian (A2.TONY, Cat 2, Top 37, Msg 1) [EOA] [IMD] FYI - MORGAN DAVIS """""""""""""""""" FYI From: Morgan Davis [mailto:mdavis@cts.com] Wayne, No, it is no longer a service we offer. A serving site would simply need the source code (and probably a programmer or two to finish development work to make it operate under modern Unix-based OS's). --Morgan ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne Arthurton [mailto:Wayne.Arthurton@us.didata.com] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 1:30 PM To: 'mdavis@cts.com' Subject: Are UMDSS acnts still available now that you are hosting.com? If not what would it take to make a umdss serving site? Thanks, Wayne Arthurton ----- end original message ----- (WAYNER, Cat 10, Top 31, Msg 1) [EOA] [PSF] UPDATED VERSION OF PYTHON SCRIPT FOR A2 FORUM """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Here is an updated version of the python script to work for the a2 forum. # Simple Python A2Central.com Message Retriever import sys, os, time, telnetlib # Change these to suit username = '' # A2Central.com username password = '' # A2Central.com password savedir = '.' # Directory to store the message file in # hostname = 'a2central.com' port = 23 loginprompt = 'ogin:' passwordprompt = 'sword:' mainprompt = 'Page 1' bboption = 'm645;1' bbprompt = '1 ?' readcmd = 'bro nor nos' byecmd = 'bye' crlf = '\r\n' timestamp = time.strftime('%Y%m%dT%H%M%S', time.localtime(time.time())) filename = os.path.join(savedir, 'a2central-' + timestamp) if os.path.exists(filename): sys.stderr.write('File already exists\n') sys.exit(1) tn = telnetlib.Telnet() try: tn.open(hostname, port) except: sys.stderr.write('Cannot telnet to A2Central.com\n') sys.exit(2) sys.stderr.write('Waiting for Login\n') tn.read_until(loginprompt) tn.write(username + crlf) sys.stderr.write('Waiting for Pass\n') tn.read_until(passwordprompt) tn.write(password + crlf) tn.read_until('Return') tn.write(crlf) sys.stderr.write('Waiting for Main\n') tn.read_until(mainprompt) tn.write(bboption + crlf) tn.read_until(bbprompt) tn.write(readcmd + crlf) msgs = tn.read_until(bbprompt) if msgs: try: file = open(filename, 'w') file.write(msgs) file.close() except: sys.stderr.write('Cannot write file\n') tn.write(byecmd + crlf) tn.close() print 'Done' (WAYNER, Cat 10, Top 57, Msg 48) [EOA] [SFN] SOAR AND FOUR DIGIT PAGE NUMBERS """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Will SOAR be updated to handle the four digit page numbers? (Editor) >>>>> """"" The WTC forum is accessible using a web browser, too, at http://www.syndicomm.com/communities/wtc/messages it's preliminary and isn't perfect, but it does work. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 208) >>>>> """"" I have been caught out here. SOAR was written to handle up to the three digit page numbers that Genie used. If Syndicomm is going to break this, and have many more four figure numbers in the future, I will release an update to SOAR. The SOAR logic needs to be updated in a number of places, and your Setup files will also need updating, so it is not a simple process to adjust them. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Fri 14 Sep 2001 - 51 days till KFest '01 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/ (CONDUCTOR, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 209) >>>>> """"" GEnie had a number of forums with 4-page numbers, including White House at 1600, Multimedia at 2000, and others. Our software supports forums with page numbers up to 32000, for the record, although I don't expect to ever use any beyond 9999. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 210) >>>>> """"" The Tax forum on GEnie was 1040. The forum I used to run, PowerPC Programming, was 1440. PPC was also four digits. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 211) >>>>> """"" As I only ever used the A2, A2Pro and Mac Forums on Genie, and my User Manual was for GEnie not Genie, I had thought that page numbers only ran to three digits. I will fix SOAR to handle the larger numbers in due course, but am advised that the Forum Sheppy has set up uses the new Forum format, so in any case, it might not work with SOAR as is. SOAR users please be patient while I sort this out. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Sat 15 Sep 2001 - 52 days till KFest '01 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/ (CONDUCTOR, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 212) [EOA] [SRA] SOAR v1b6 AVAILABLE """"""""""""""""""" I have posted SOAR 1b6 on my home pages today. The main change is that it now accepts 5 digit page numbers, so you can add 'WTC Aftermath' Page 1600, to your list of favorite pages. As far as I can tell, all the various functions and displays have survived the changes. You will find that your Forum.Setup and Forum.List files will be automatically updated, and renamed, to reflect the changes. If you have any problems, or see any cosmetic problems as a result of the changes, please let me know as soon as possible. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Mon 24 Sep 2001 - 302 days till KFest '02 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/ (CONDUCTOR, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 220) >>>>> """"" (Reports were posted as to problems with installation of the update.) (Editor) >>>>> """"" This problem has already been detected, and a fresh upload to my web site was made yesterday. Only the Updater script was affected, so I have not changed the SOAR version number, but the upload date is now 27/9/01. --- cut --- Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Thu 27 Sep 2001 - 299 days till KFest '02 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/ (CONDUCTOR, Cat 10, Top 59, Msg 223) [EOA] [OIT] OLD INTERNET TOOLS REVISITED """""""""""""""""""""""""""" When I first started using the Internet, I remember hearing about tools such as "archie" and "veronica" (but no jughead). I assume these utilities have gone the way of gopher, but what were they used for in their time? -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 25) >>>>> """"" Archie was an FTP search utility that would search FTP sites for files matching a particular name query. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 26) >>>>> """"" I think there are still a few archie sites left (although there are better search engines for ftp stuff these days). I vaguely remember using archie years back, but don't think I ever found anything I was looking for :) (KWS, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 27) >>>>> """"" In addition to those, there was also gopher. I haven't run across a gopher site in some time. Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. - rsuenaga@apple2.org - A2's Head Geek Alpha Testing CoPilot v2.55 and ProTERM 3.1 Offline Syndicomm.com Message Manager (A2.RYAN, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 29) >>>>> """"" Try gopher://nic.merit.edu:7055/11/apple/ , an Apple II gopher site. Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host "Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night. 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT (MARK, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 35) [EOA] [GYP] GAMES YOU HAVE PROGRAMMED """"""""""""""""""""""""" Does anyone have any games that they have actually programmed that were fun? I remember putting together some text based adventures back in the day and even a simple snake game. I wasn't much of a die hard programmer, but I did have fun taking basic games and altering them to see what strange and wonderful things I could do with them. fun times. Dain Neater Keeper of the Boards A2 Community Syndicomm (A2.DAIN, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 35) >>>>> """"" Dain, Mostly I tried altering existing 8-bit games to make them more fun. Never worked though. Anyone ever played the D&D game "The Missing Ring"? -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 36) >>>>> """"" I started writing a tetris-game in applesoft once. I got to the point of having a falling block that could move, but that was about it. My favorite 8-bit game is probably a freeware DHR applesoft blackjack game, though. I don't know who programmed it, it came with a bunch of others on a collection of PD applesoft games. (KWS, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 38) >>>>> """"" Like a lot of kids, I programmed my calculator in high school. I wrote Blackjack and Red Dog, as well as a maze game (static mazes, not randomly generated). I tried to adapt the idea behind the maze game to a two-player "light cycle" game but couldn't get the link code working correctly. On the Apple II, I wrote an Applesoft version of "Space Ship of Death", a BBS door game for the IBM PC and Atari ST. My version ran under Warp Six BBS software. SSOD was a text-based adventure-style game ("go north", "get item", etc.) where players wander a maze, collecting weapons and defenses with which to hunt and kill other players. It was a lot of fun back then. :) With v1.1 I introduced interchangeable modules, so that instead of a space ship, the sysop could also use a hotel or summer camp as the scenario. I never finished the D&D castle scenario. For Spectrum, I've written Hangman and Mad Libs games to play with other people in the text-based conference rooms of CompuServe, GEnie, Delphi, or Syndicomm. Funny... all these programs actually worked, yet I'm probably best known for Maxster. :p -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 39) >>>>> """"" Well, I can't say that it was fun, but I did program a simple war game in Applesoft that I sure had fun programming :) When I get my stuff together, I'll try to have it available from my website. I called it STRIKEFORCE, and it was based on the fulda gap scenario of the early eighties. _________ | homas (TCOMPTER, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 40) >>>>> """"" Well, in addition to YahtzeeNDA and Shipwrecked! I wrote a couple of games in Hyper C, a Star Trek one and a rendition of the board game Payday. The family has had fun playing them from time to time. Kim Howe Newton Forum Host (KIMHOWE, Cat 14, Top 1, Msg 41) [EOA] [HTC] Hammurabi by Thomas A. Compter """""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Well, I'd almost forgotten about this. I've been meaning to upload this here for a while, but there's been a problem with my account that has thankfully been resolved, and Hammurabi for the Apple IIGS should soon be available here. Anyone who wishes to is welcome to upload this to any of the reputable Apple II archives, as long as you don't change or delete any of the files, etc. Below is the readme file included in the archive. ************************************************************ Program Name: Hammurabi Author: Thomas A. Compter Version: 1.0.1 ************************************************************ This project came about from the combination of two goals that I had. First, I wanted to learn how to write a desktop application program for the Apple IIGS, and wanted a very simple project to start with. Secondly, I wanted to experiment with portability of modular programming. This is a rendition of an old text based Apple ][ Integer Basic game of the same name, wherein you take the role of the King of a city-state and allocate resources within the city in order to increase the wealth and well-being of the city. I sort of think of it as the original Sim-City. Please don't expect anything nearly as cool as that, though. Remember, this is my first attempt at a GS/OS desktop program, and I purposely wanted to tackle a SMALL project for my first one. You should keep that in mind as you judge the quality. ****** For Programmers ****** The core of the program has been written in what I hope is completely portable, pure ANSI C. In other words, this code should compile and run correctly on any ANSI C compliant compiler. Furthermore, although C is not in itself object-oriented, I have attempted here to write the code in an object-oriented fashion. The files ham.h and ham.c try to mimic the sense of a "class," in that all the code that affects the hamtype structure is performed in ham.c. The goal was to minimize the effort needed to port the program to a GUI system by creating a pair of files (ham.h and ham.c) which could be included with any main program and still work perfectly. Since this is C, and not C++, there is nothing to force the programmer to respect the "wall", but if (s)he does, then the ham.x files should behave as a class. Source code is included in the archive. ***** For Everyone Else ***** There are two versions of the program, both are S16 executables. Hammurabi is the Desktop version, while HamText is the text-based version (the one that should compile under any C compiler). Installation is accomplished by copying the files to a folder of your choosing. Or you can run it off a floppy or floppy disk image, if you're running an emulator. If you like using aliases, by all means make yourself one! :-) ************************************************************ Instructions for the Desktop Version ************************************************************ I really hope that game play for the desktop version is self-explanatory. but just in case, here goes: You are in charge of allocating resources for your City-State. You can buy and sell land, and choose to feed your people more or less. Heed the warnings you are given when the game begins! The goal of the game is to maximize the amount of land that your city owns and utilizes, while keeping the populous fed. Remember that it takes people to farm the land! To accomplish any of the allocating, simply click on the appropriate buttons. When you are done allocating for the year, click on the "Go To Next Year" button. ************************************************************ Instructions for the Text Version ************************************************************ The goals are the same as for the desktop version, but you make your moves by typing the letter that appears in (p)arentheses at the bottom of the screen. ************************************************************ Legal Stuff ************************************************************ This game is distributed as Shareware. The price of a legally licensed copy is exactly 1 email message to me per version that you download telling me what you think of the game, how it can be improved in either aesthetics or gameplay, etc. You can reach me at TomCompter@aol.com. The Source code is also Shareware, under the same stipulations as above. If you decide to use my code in a project of your own, I'd appreciate some on-screen credit and a copy of your project. Thanks for trying my game. _________ | homas (TCOMPTER, Cat 14, Top 2, Msg 32) [EOA] [SCC] SILVERN CASTLE v7.3 COMING """""""""""""""""""""""""" Just wanted to announce the imminent upcoming release of Silvern Castle v7.3. This release will mainly fix a few errors I discovered, including a nasty bug in the automap routine that crashes when activated inside the moat (although the Extra's Menu automap feature works). By the way, who at syndicomm is now in charge of disk admissions? Jeff Fink Silvern author (FINKSTERJ, Cat 14, Top 7, Msg 78) [EOA] [FSS] FILE SUBMISSIONS """""""""""""""" >> By the way, who at syndicomm is now in charge of disk admissions? << Well, I think it would probably be most appropriate to call them "file submissions", and that would be Tony Ward, better known as A2.TONY or Conan the Librarian. Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. - rsuenaga@apple2.org - A2's Head Geek Alpha Testing CoPilot v2.55 and ProTERM 3.1 Offline Syndicomm.com Message Manager (A2.RYAN, Cat 14, Top 7, Msg 79) >>>>> """"" You can always email A2's current librarian by emailing a2.library@syndicomm.com -- in fact, this routes your message to everyone with the ability to release library files. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 14, Top 7, Msg 80) [EOA] [LCP] LOST CLASSIC PROJECT INFO """"""""""""""""""""""""" We're still looking for copies of the Vitesse software for inclusion in the libraries and FTP sites. I do have Salvation awaiting upload--does anyone have the other titles? (Remember that Harmonie and Faxination weren't included.) Thanks! Later.............Howard (A2.HOWARD, Cat 15, Top 3, Msg 12) >>>>> """"" I've got several titles I'm uploading tonight or Wed. depending on work schedule, and I don't have the list at hand. I don't think I've got all the titles from Vitesse you mentioned, but I'll check to find out. :) We're in the process of getting a bunch of manuals scanned for ascii format thanks to Greg Nelson and Erick Wagner, so more on that front soon too. Later........Howard (A2.HOWARD, Cat 15, Top 3, Msg 18) EOA] [ARS] Apple RELEASE SOURCE CODE FOR SOME ITEMS? """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Now that Apple has released Darwin and Quicktime streaming server as public source (even though Darwin is BSD and Mach, 2 open source projects), do you think they could be convinced to release source code for some of their A2 stuff? Maybe they wouldn't want to release the Finder or WindowMgr code, but original prodos, gs/os, hypercard, etc. would be nifty. (KWS, Cat 15, Top 4, Msg 21) >>>>> """"" It might be worth making the attempt. I don't see it as likely, since the only reason Darwin is open source is because it was open source code when Apple cribbed it from FreeBSD. :) Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 15, Top 4, Msg 22) [EOA] [RGS] RAM FOR THE IIgs """""""""""""""" Does anybody have any idea where I can purchase memory chips for a GS Ram Plus? I can no longer get Spectrum to run, although simple programs will work for while. When I run BitBanger, it consistently finds bad memory in memory bank $08 (of $02-$61). Since the only way I can currently successfully boot is not have any inits or DAs loaded, is the entire card bad? Should I really be looking for a whole new memory card? Where would I find one of those for sale? David R. Pierce (DAVIDP, Cat 17, Top 24, Msg 12) >>>>> """"" If I were you I would look into picking up a 4MB or 8MB Sirius RAM card from Alltech Electronics http://www.allelec.com or calling.. Toll Free Sales Only 888/404-8848 You can check out some of their Apple II wares at http://www.allelec.com/indexa2.html The 4MB Sirius Card is 79.00 and the 8MB Card is $99.00. I have heard nothing but good things about them. I think the 4MB card is also upgradable to 8MB provided you can find the Ram chips (It uses an older memory type that used to be used quite a bit in PCs). If any of this info is incorrect I apologize in advance. Good Luck, Dain Neater Bulletin Board Manager at A2 Syndicomm Rocks!!!!! (A2.DAIN, Cat 17, Top 24, Msg 13) >>>>> """"" While I'm not sure where you'd get chips at this point, I need to point out that Harold was pretty clear that BitBanger wouldn't get reliable results with AE memory cards. If you do want to get a new card, in addition to the places Dain mentioned, eBay is worth checking out. Ryan (A2.RYAN, Cat 17, Top 24, Msg 14) >>>>> """"" Thanks Dain, I'll give Alltech a call. And Ryan, BitBanger worked fine for me a few (okay, many) years ago, so my gut feeling is that something happened to my memory (take that either way and it is still right). David R. Pierce (DAVIDP, Cat 17, Top 24, Msg 15) >>>>> """"" Yaa! I'm back! Just got the Sirius 4Meg board (they were out of the 8Meggers and I didn't want to wait). Stuck it in, ran BitBanger just enough to feel comfortable, opened up SOAR and couldn't connect (: But it was just a minor setback due to the fact that the connection had not been shut down the last time I used it (many months ago it seems). Anyway, now I am off to see if I can get the latest updates to SOAR and SAFE. Boy is it nice to be able to use the GS programs again. David R. Pierce (DAVIDP, Cat 17, Top 24, Msg 16) [EOA] [UPG] USING PING """""""""" Background: My ISP's Tech Support has asked me to ping their mail server to help figure out why it has suddenly stopped responding to my GS accessing it via SAM. No one else is having this problem. I can access Syndicomm's mail server fine, using SAM. Their mail server's log shows no response from my GS after connecting. My SAMlog and the SAM debug log both show no response from the ISP mail server after connecting. The problem started the day after they changed the IP on their server. (I have already tried using a different DNS and using the new dotted IP address of their server with no success.) I have Geoff's Ping EXE program. My questions: I dropped Ping into ProSel's exe commands folder. I then connected with my ISP using the Marinetti CDEV, dropped into the Prosel shell and gave the command "ping mail.montana.net". (mail.montana.net is the server in question.) Ping displayed its initial message and then the GS immediately crashed into the monitor. 1. Will Ping run properly from the Prosel shell? 2. If so, how do I use it, since what I tried did not work? 3. If not, which shells will it work from? (I have the full Orca suite of programs, shell, Prizm etc, and a many years old version of GNO/ME. However, I have not gotten around to installing or using either shell. If one of these will work, can someone give me a quick and dirty how to do it, so I can report back to the Tech Support quickly? If I need to get the current GNO/ME, where can I get it? I do not have any computer except for various Apple IIs.) Thanks, MT Steve (S.BERNBAUM, Cat 20, Top 13, Msg 39) >>>>> """"" I've used ping successfully under GNO/ME 2.0.6. I'm fairly certain I've seen it crash, as well (as all Marinetti apps do at times...). the latest version of gno/me can be found at the ftp.gno.org ftp site. See www.gno.org for the exact location. Installing gno.me is probably overkill for just pinging a mail server, though :) Installing ORCA/Shell is much easier and requires less disk space. If you run prizm, I believe there is an option to start a shell window. You could try running ping from there. I'd also suggest trying to ping again from ProSel. Try it without starting Marinetti in the Cdev. Try running the telnet app first. You could also try telnetting to port 25 and 110 (the smtp and pop3 ports, respectively) of mail.montana.net from spectrum to see if they can connect. If you have shell access, you could try pinging the server from their to find the ip address, and then try connecting with that instead of the mail.montana.net (Marinetti DNS is flaky, sometimes). (KWS, Cat 20, Top 13, Msg 40) >>>>> """"" Kelvin, >> If you have shell access... << Unfortunately, there is currently no ISP offering shell access in Montana. >> ... the latest version of gno/me can be found at the ftp.gno.org ftp site. << Can this be downloaded using Syndicomm's Lynx? SAFE does not work for me. >> Installing ORCA/Shell is much easier and requires less disk space. If you run prizm, I believe there is an option to start a shell window. << Thanks for that advice. I have a partition on my hard drive set aside for Orca. So far, all that is on it is GSoft Basic. I have been planning on installing the Orca shell, Prizm, Orca C, Orca M, and Orca Pascal but have not gotten around to it. It looks like I now have found a round tuit ;), at least for the shell and/or Prizm. >> I'd also suggest trying to ping again from ProSel. Try it without starting Marinetti in the Cdev. Try running the telnet app first. << That sounds like the thing I should try first. >> You could also try telnetting to port 25 and 110 (the smtp and pop3 ports, respectively) of mail.montana.net from spectrum << I do not know how to telnet to a port. I assume that I just fill in a dotted address in the telnet dialog box in Spectrum's Services window. I got the dotted address for from tech support (Ewen also found it for me). It is <216.146.116.1>. Do I add another dot and the 25 or 110 to that or what? Thanks for your help. :) MT Steve (S.BERNBAUM, Cat 20, Top 13, Msg 41) >>>>> """"" Kelvin, I left the connection open when I finished with Spectrum, went to Prosel and ran Ping from the shell to . It worked fine. Thanks for the advice! Is there any way to extract any more information from the ping connection than just that it sent and received an ICMP (whatever that means) echo four times? My ISP tech support gave me the impression that I would be receiving detailed information regarding packets received, order of the packets, etc. That was what he wanted me to report to him. Thanks again, Steve (S.BERNBAUM, Cat 20, Top 13, Msg 42) >>>>> """"" ping is pretty simple. Fancy ping clients can tell you how long it took the data to be sent, and if the data fragmented or not, but what's most meaningful is knowing if you can locate the host and they're responding (and it sounds like they are). I've never tried, but you should be able to append ":25" or ":110" to the address to specify which port you want to connect to. I think the topic cops should probably start moving this conversation elsewhere :) (KWS, Cat 20, Top 13, Msg 44) [EOA] [LPC] THE LEARN TO PROGRAM IN PASCAL COURSE """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I'm currently enjoying the Learn to Program in Pascal course. I'm only on chapter three; hope to get through five a week until I'm done, then tackle Toolbox Programming in Pascal. Ryan (A2.RYAN, Cat 22, Top 6, Msg 3) >>>>> """"" Enjoy that! It's a great course, and I personally like pascal better than C. You still have to deal with pointers, but it seems to me that they're handled a little better in pascal than in C. FWIW, (which may be very little :) I've included the source to hammurabi in the archive that should be up here soon. _________ | homas (TCOMPTER, Cat 22, Top 6, Msg 4) >>>>> """"" Pascal is definitely an easier language to pick up than C, but I find C to be easier for doing Toolboxish programming. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 22, Top 6, Msg 5) [EOA] [PZM] PRIZM """"" After fooling with it for a few weeks, I really like Prizm. I just wish the GS had a bigger desktop to use it with :) Ryan (A2.RYAN, Cat 22, Top 28, Msg 1) >>>>> """"" The screen is just too small for a GUI environment. That's why I prefer to do my GS programming using MPW on the Mac these days. And of course, now that MPW is free, and MPW IIgs ORCA/C can be had for a vastly reduced price... ;) Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 22, Top 28, Msg 2) >>>>> """"" Sheppy, I know I've been in this discussion before (Deja vu?) but wasn't there some limitation, like MPW only working with an older, buggy version of Orca C, or something? And MPW IIGS Orca/C is on Opus I, is it not? _________ | homas (TCOMPTER, Cat 22, Top 28, Msg 3) >>>>> """"" MPW IIgs ORCA/C is basically ORCA/C 2.0.3 instead of 2.1, which is a down side -- although the source is now available through the Opus ][ package, so perhaps an update might happen? The MPW IIgs ORCA/C compiler is indeed on the Opus ][ CD. Which reminds me -- if you share changes you make to sources on Opus ][ The Source with me, I do have authorization to redistribute them to other Opus ][ owners, so please do! Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 22, Top 28, Msg 4) >>>>> """"" I was going to say that I thought MPW IIgs Orca/C was equivalent to 2.1, but looking at the product blurb: -- MPW IIGS ORCA/C is a port of ORCA/C 2.0.3 ... MPW IIGS ORCA/C is almost a straight port of ORCA/C 2.0.3 to the MPW environment. The exceptions are some oft-requested extensions to C, like // comments and multibyte character constants. -- But since the source for both is available ... :) BTW - great news about the opus ][ source code change redistribution, Sheppy. Any plans to set up a registered owner site? (yeah, I know you're busy :) (KWS, Cat 22, Top 28, Msg 5) >>>>> """"" No decision yet on how to handle redistribution. I have permission to do it but there are some conditions I need to go over before doing anything about it. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 22, Top 28, Msg 6) [EOA] [SFU] SAFE UPDATED TO v1.1 """""""""""""""""""" I have posted an update to the SAFE script set on my web site today. SAFE 1.1 fixes the problem some of you had double-clicking the List boxes to navigate folders. No other fixes have been made. We still wait an upgrade to Marinetti to fix the 'empty directory' syndrome, and hosts that require more secure authentication. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 18 Sep 2001 - 55 days till KFest '01 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/ (CONDUCTOR, Cat 26, Top 6, Msg 21) [EOA] [UOS] POINTER ON THE USE OF SAFE v1.1 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" A note about the latest version of SAFE 1.1 on my web site. As Marinetti does not yet seem able to open local listening ports, despite its docs saying they should work, please make sure that you check the 'Use passive (PASV)' box in the settings dialog. You will sit forever waiting for directories to be opened otherwise! The list box double clicking has been fixed with this release, but you still me have problems opening directories on some hosts due to the other bugs in Marinetti. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Fri 5 Oct 2001 - 291 days till KFest '02 Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR 1.0b5 Setup: Bernie ][ the Rescue 3.0 and a Blue & White G3/350 http://www.ewannop.btinternet.co.uk/ (CONDUCTOR, Cat 17, Top 24, Msg 17) [EOA] [IFD] ICONS FOR FOCUS DRIVE """"""""""""""""""""" At KFest this year, a few of us noticed that when Max Jones powered up his IIGS that his desktop had a different icon for his Focus drive than the usual. Where most have the standard hard drive icon, Max has one that is of the Focus card itself. When I asked him about it, he believes that his drive came that way. I asked Tony Diaz about it and he had never seen that icon before. Tony looked around Max's hard drive and found a FOCUS.ICN file in his Icon directory. Max had no idea where he got it though. Tonight I was thinking about it and figured that if it were anywhere, it would be on the Time In A Bottle CD. So I checked it out and sure enough. Number: 26122 Name: FOCUS.ICN.BXY Address: CHUNK.S Date: 951206 Approximate # of bytes: 1240 Number of Accesses: 42 Library: 10 Description: If you have one of AEC's new FOCUS HardDrive cards, you'll love this ICON. It is a picture of the card. Your card's name must begin with 'F' for it to work. If you have an Icon Editor you may change this attribute yourself. Enjoy! Packed with ShrinkIt GS 1.1. Keywords: icons,Focus HardDrive,hard drives,gs On the CD itself it can be found at: /Time.In.A.Bottle.Volume.1/Lib10.Icon/Icons/E-F/focus.icn.bxy The "Your card's name must begin with 'F' for it to work." has me puzzled a bit. I tried to change one of the partition names to begin with a 'F' but that didn't help. Perhaps the boot partition has to begin with a 'F'? I'll have to try that next. Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host "Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night. 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT (MARK, Cat 28, Top 3, Msg 18) >>>>> """"" If you take a look at the icon with an icon editor (ICE would be my first choice), you'll notice there's only a large icon and it's set to match the filename (or volume name, whatever :) F*. Why it's not working for you when you change a partition to beginning with an F I have no idea. However, with an icon editor, you ought to be able to get it to match whatever you want. Ryan (A2.RYAN, Cat 28, Top 3, Msg 19) [EOA] [FUO] Focus UTILITIES DISK ONLINE? """""""""""""""""""""""""""" Hi. I seem to have misplaced my Focus Utilities disk. Is there an online source for this disk? A disk image perhaps? Thanks, Dain Neater Keeper of the Board Syndicomm A2 (A2.DAIN, Cat 28, Top 3, Msg 20) >>>>> """"" You can get the Focus software (as well as some other relatively hard to find Apple II driver software) at the Alltech web site: http://www.allelec.com/apple2sw.htm Ryan (A2.RYAN, Cat 28, Top 3, Msg 22) [EOA] [FSS] THE FUTURE OF Sweet16 """"""""""""""""""""" One of these days I'll find time to work on Sweet16 some more... Syndicomm has been keeping me extremely busy. And of course the uncertainty surrounding BeOS lately has been dampening my enthusiasm just a little bit. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 29, Top 32, Msg 13) >>>>> """"" Sweet16 really needs to be ported to a different OS. I know that a Windows port isn't going to happen too soon but perhaps a Linux port? Mark Percival - Syndicomm.com Apple II RTC Host "Midweek Madness!" every Wednesday night. 7:00 PM - 9:00 PM PDT (MARK, Cat 29, Top 32, Msg 14) >>>>> """"" A Linux port has been authorized but the person that was going to do it has been too busy and hasn't touched it. I'd frankly prefer a Mac OS X version, but I doubt that would be tolerated by the Bernie boys. :) Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 29, Top 32, Msg 15) [EOA] [PPC] POINTERS - PROGRAMMING IN C """"""""""""""""""""""""""" Pointers in C are pretty inconsistent at times, especially when strings and characters are involved. Let's start at the beginning, shall we? A pointer is very much like an arrow that points at a memory location. It's a number that specifically indicates the address in memory of a particular piece of data -- very much like an address, like 500 North Main Street, refers to a particular piece of land. Where a pointer in a computer indicates the address of, say, a variable containing the number 50, a home address indicates the address of, say, Bob Smith. Why are pointers important? For several reasons. Here are a few examples: 1. At the lowest level, some important information in your computer's memory is kept at a fixed memory location, which you must address using a pointer. For example, the low-level keyboard input register is at the address $E0C000. So if you need to read the keyboard at the low level from C, you might do something similar to: char *keyboard = 0xE0C000; char thekey = *keyboard; We'll get into the oddities of this syntax later on in this and/or other posts. 2. If you're going to pass a structure from one function to another in C, it's far more efficient and practical, in most cases, to pass a pointer to it instead of the entire structure itself. This way, instead of dumping a copy of the entire structure through from one function to another, only the four-byte pointer to the structure has to be passed around. 3. The Toolbox uses pointers. A lot. Now that we have some idea what pointers are and why they're important, let's take a look at how they work in C. A pointer, in C, is a particular type of variable, which is defined by indicating the type of variable that will be pointed to, and using the asterisk "*" before the name of the variable, as follows: char *letterPointer; int *intPointer; WindowPtr *myWindowPtr; The first is a pointer to a character. Through a quirk of how C works, a pointer to a character is the same thing as a string. They're interchangeable, with some caveats; we'll look at strings in C in a minute. The second is a pointer to an integer. Integers on the IIgs are 2 bytes. The third is a pointer to a window record structure. You might pass this into Toolbox functions such as ShowWindow or HideWindow, or even SetPort. Creating a pointer variable, such as intPointer above, does *not* create a memory location to actually store the value pointed to by the pointer. It creates a variable into which the address of a value can be stored. So never, ever, do this: int *intPointer; /* create an integer pointer */ *intPointer = 0; /* store 0 at the address pointed to */ The value of intPointer -- the address of the integer variable -- is never set here. You're trashing memory when you stuff 0 into a random memory location. Instead, be sure to do something more like this: int myInteger; /* create an integer variable */ int *intPointer; /* create an integer pointer */ intPounter = &myInteger; /* make intPointer point to myInteger */ *intPointer = 0; /* store 0 at the address pointed to */ This is safe. Clearly this is a simple example that doesn't make much sense, but in a context of really making use of the pointer, it can be very handy. Let's look closer at the syntax. The ampersand "&" translates into English as "the address of". So "&myInteger" is "the address of myInteger". The asterisk "*" unfortunately has two meanings (and therein begins the confusion). When declaring a variable, like this: int *intPointer; It means "this variable is actually a pointer". In this case, a pointer to an integer. When accessing a variable, like this: int j = *intPointer; It means "the value pointed to by". In this case, it means "the value pointed to by the intPointer pointer". OK, what's with strings? A string in C is defined using a character pointer, like this: char *mystring = "This is a string"; This creates a pointer to a character, called mystring, which points to the string "This is a string". This is the first of C's annoying special cases. Let's compare: int *intPointer = 0; char *mystring = "This is a string"; The first of these creates a pointer to an integer, intPointer, and sets it up to point to the address $000000. The second creates a pointer to a string, mystring, but also tells the C compiler to insert the string "This is a string" into your program code and set up mystring to point to it. This isn't very consistent at all. Strings in C are basically an array of characters with the last character in the array being the byte value 0 (also called the null character). We'll look at the relationship between arrays and pointers in a future post, perhaps. We'll continue this look at pointers in C soon. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 52, Top 13, Msg 1) [EOA] [GSR] GETTING STARTED WITH REZ """""""""""""""""""""""" What's the best way to get started with Rez? I'm always confused by it. Ryan (A2.RYAN, Cat 52, Top 48, Msg 1) I learned rez from a tutorial on ground called rtutor. This was way back when ground was grind, and not just a pile of mud :) I'd bet TIAB has it, or possibly other rez info. rTutor included C and rez code, as well as tutorial information. To learn rez, I think you need to just stick your hands in it, by looking at rez files, disassembling resource forks, and looking at resources in your favorite programs with something like Genesys or Foundation. Or skip rez entirely and use one of the above :) (KWS, Cat 52, Top 48, Msg 2) >>>>> """"" Best way to learn Rez is to just copy existing Rez code and alter it. It's actually a pretty simple "language". Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 52, Top 48, Msg 3) [EOA] [PGF] PNG FILES """"""""" What is it about PNG files that people think is so great, other than it not being Unisys-impaired? Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 60, Top 7, Msg 1) >>>>> """"" Two of the biggest reasons PNG is better than GIF: 1) Alpha transparency support. GIF supports transparent pixels, but it's an all-or none proposition, which can cause hard edges and transparent pictures can look like crap on the wrong color background. PNG has transparent pixels, but a pixel can be a colored and 50% transparent. 2) Unlimited colors. GIF is limited to 256 colors (255 with transparency), which doesn't work well for photos or smooth color blending. PNG supports pretty much unlimited colors. But, there's 2 advantages GIF has over PNG: 1) Not all browsers deal with png natively (I think all modern ones do, though). 2) GIF animations. And just to be thorough, 2 advantages of PNG over jpeg: 1) Transparency. 2) non-lossy compression (PNG compression is generally as good or better than GIF). (KWS, Cat 60, Top 7, Msg 2) >>>>> """"" Significant disadvantage to GIF vs. PNG is Unisys's patent insanity. Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. - rsuenaga@apple2.org - A2's Head Geek Alpha Testing CoPilot v2.55 and ProTERM 3.1 Offline Syndicomm.com Message Manager (A2.RYAN, Cat 60, Top 7, Msg 3) >>>>> """"" The claim that modern browsers support PNG seems to be a load of hooey though. We spent a couple hours trying to get them to consistently work the other day, hoping to use them on our webside board, and no matter what we did, some browser or another wouldn't recognize the files. We finally gave up and went with GIF instead. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 60, Top 7, Msg 4) >>>>> """"" I think Unisys' lzw patent expires soon. And I think most European countries don't accept the validity of software patents. Some browsers do behave erratically with png pics, though. IE 4 (pc), in my experience sometimes shows them, sometimes doesn't. and sometimes shows them with quicktime (and takes forever to display). It may be that some pictures are stored slightly differently, or invalid, or something. (KWS, Cat 60, Top 7, Msg 5) [EOA] [CPE] CELL PHONE FOR 911 EMERGENCY SERVICE ONLY """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Awhile back we were talking about cell phones, and Gary noted that even those not subscribed to a service can dial 911. I stopped by the local Cingular store today and they confirmed this, but presented me with the dilemma of acquiring a phone. A cell phone costs $219 by itself, but only $19.95 or so with a minimum one-year service plan, which comes with a $150 early termination fee, so no matter, what it's an expensive piece of hardware. Does anyone know of cell phone providers who specialize in emergency usage plans? Or does anyone have a cell phone they're no longer using? :) -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 226) >>>>> """"" There are many cellulars at local Goodwills and such for just about nothing. Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. - rsuenaga@apple2.org - A2's Head Geek Alpha Testing CoPilot v2.55 and ProTERM 3.1 Offline Syndicomm.com Message Manager (A2.RYAN, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 228) >>>>> """"" I've seen ads for cheap cell phones ($20 or so) that don't come with a plan, but instead come with xx minutes of usage (sort of like a phone card), and you can buy additional time as well. I think I've seen these advertised at office supply stores (like Staples) as well as general department stores (like Ames). (KWS, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 229) >>>>> """"" My son has an ATT Wireless phone like that. The unused time expires after 90 days, but adding more time with a new card extends it to 90 days from the date you activate the new card. You can buy in sizes you actually use, so for small volume use, it's cheaper than any monthly fee plan. For regular users, the monthly plans are cheaper, but do require a commitment, and good credit. If all you want is to be able to dial 911, a used phone is the way to go. Carl Knoblock - Telephone Tech - Thu 4 Oct 01 9:59:25 pm cknoblo@home.com - Via Spectrum v2.5.2 & SOAR v1.0b6 KFest 2002, July 23-28, 2002 - 292 days till KFest On cable via LANceGS & Marinetti 2.0.1 - Thank you, Richard. A2 RTC Staff - Saturday Night House Party - carlk@syndicomm.com (CARLK, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 230) [EOA] [CBU] COPY/BACKUP FILES FROM UNIX ACCOUNT """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Dunno if this is the right topic. Now that I've graduated, my college account is about to expire. I need to copy/backup all the files from my Unix account before they disappear on Friday. Any suggestions as to the best/quickest way to do this from my PowerBook? Some ideas: - telnet and sz the files, or ftp the files, one-by-one. - telnet, zip, and sz/ftp the collected files. - Mount the account via AppleTalk and copy the files in the Finder. - Mount the account via AppleTalk and Drop stuff the files onto a local volume. -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 221) >>>>> """"" >> - telnet, zip, and sz/ftp the collected files. << This is what I'd do. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 222) >>>>> """"" It's also what I would do, but I wouldn't sz, just ftp. Ryan (A2.RYAN, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 223) >>>>> """"" Thanks guys. Which is quicker: FTP over TCP/IP, or sz over direct dial-up? (I have a 56K modem.) Also, many files in my account have filenames beginning with a period. If I use the command "zip backup .* *", as recommended in the man pages, the zip command tries to archive everything in the parent directory, as well as directories located in the parent - ie, just about the entire server - when it tries to zip ".". Any idea how to get around this? -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 224) >>>>> """"" Ah! I solved what ailed me. I'd forgotten I'd long ago aliased "zip" to "zip -gr", and the "r" flag causes the zip command to recurse through all available directories. I unaliased it and backed up all my files into backup.zip using these two commands: zip backup .* zip -gr backup * Thanks, -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 225) [EOA] [EQN] ETIQUETTE QUESTION """""""""""""""""" I have an etiquette question. I write a weekly newspaper column which I would like to submit for syndication. There are at least three syndicates I am interested in pending proposals to, but I think I once read or was told that it is not kosher to solicit the same material to multiple vendors simultaneously. OTOH, each syndicate can take as long as ten weeks to return a response, and I'd rather not take 30 (7.5 months!) weeks to get all my responses in! Any suggestions on if it is acceptable to mail my material to three syndicates at nearly the same time? -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 34, Msg 53) >>>>> """"" I would say that, yes, it's kosher. Be aggressive. They are when they try to sell the stuff. Go get 'em, Ken. Oh, by the way, did I ever return your call when you approached me about purchasing your column? :-) Max (JUICEDGS, Cat 2, Top 34, Msg 54) >>>>> """"" I would do it. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 34, Msg 55) [EOA] [MPD] MULTI-PLAYER DIABLO ON THE MAC OR PC """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I'm trying to get a few Apple II folks together this evening to play a network game on their Mac or PC together, as kind of a group effort to get our minds off the news. So far, most of the people I've talked to have either Diablo I or Civilization II Gold, so I'd suggest we play one of those games. Anyone interested in a game starting at, say, 5:00 PM Pacific time? Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 212) >>>>> """"" Sheppy, I'd be interested in making this a weekly event. I'm not around next week but please keep us updated. I have both the games you mentioned, but have never played Diablo and suck as Civ II. Plus I'm on dial-up, FWIW. -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 213) >>>>> """"" Well, I'm hanging around for a while tonight hoping someone will play with me, but I like the idea of a weekly event. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 214) >>>>> """"" Dain and I played Diablo together tonight. We had fun but got ourselves into a sticky situation we weren't ready for and got nailed hard. We're going to play every Sunday. :) Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 215) >>>>> """"" Arrgh! I didn't read the forum yesterday, so I missed some multiplayer diablo!! I hope I don't miss it next week :) (KWS, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 216) >>>>> """"" Not sure what time we'll start next week; I hope earlier in the day than this time. :) Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 8, Msg 217) [EOA] [TSV] THE SirCam VIRUS """""""""""""""" A tec support email I received states that "the SirCam virus has its own SMTP engine." That can't possibly mean what I think it means, so could someone tell me what it means, and how that's possible? -Ken (KGAGNE, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 32) >>>>> """"" I assume it means that instead of relying on the existence of an email program like Outlook to send copies of itself to others, it has its own SMTP client built in. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (SYNDICOMM, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 33) >>>>> """"" Egads. If we're talking about the same virus, and I think we are, I spent hours over the weekend trying to help a friend who caught that virus on her PC. Whatever you do, if your virus checker IDs the virus but says it can't fix it, do not let your virus checker delete the 2 infected files, or the PC won't be able to run any programs. What it does after infecting your system, is that it sends it out to others in your address book. But, it may be even more insidious that just that, as my friend got it in e-mail from someone she didn't know. The very latest McAfee DAT file has the cure for it. It also requires the very latest McAfee engine. That is, if you can go online to download those. In any case, enter the virus name into Google, and look for the entry from the University of Maryland. They have a link to a stand-alone program you can download from Norton that will nuke the virus. They also have step-by-step instructions on exactly what to do to get the PC up and running again. In my friends case, I had to come home to download the Norton file, which fits on a 3.5" disk, and then could only run it on her machine from DOS, after booting the computer from a Win98 Startup disk. That whole experience really made me appreciate my IIGS even more. It's a dangerous world out there for PC users. Joe (JOKO, Cat 11, Top 11, Msg 34) [EOA] ------------------------------------ ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM SYNDICOMM | ------------------------------------ by Lyle Syverson [LWD] The Life With Diabetes forum """""""""""""""""""""""""""" has now opened at page 955, keyword DIABETES. Share your experiences with diabetes, and talk to others with this disease. (Opening Banner, Syndicomm Online) [EOA] [TPA] World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Syndicomm has opened a new community for discussing the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks. Share your feelings, share your sorrow, share your thoughts. Keyword WTC, page 1600. (Opening Banner, Syndicomm Online) [EOA] [STE] THE NEW STAR TREK SERIES, ENTERPRISE """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Talk about the new Star Trek series, Enterprise, in the HelpDesk forum's category 50, topic 1, at page 150, keyword HELPDESK. (Opening Banner, Syndicomm Online) [EOA] [NSA] NEW BULLETIN BOARD SOFTWARE, PAGE 1600 """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" The World Trade Center/Pentagon discussion forum at page 1600 is running our new bulletin board software. The software isn't finished yet, but is making rapid progress. You may visit it on the web at http://www.syndicomm.com/communities/wtc/messages. So far this week, we've done some major revamping to the look and feel, and URLs are now clickable in messages. We have lots more to do, but it's moving along, and we thought we'd share our progress with you. Eric "Sheppy" Shepherd sheppy@syndicomm.com Owner, Syndicomm http://www.syndicomm.com Building communities, bit by bit. (HelpDesk Bulletin Board, SYNDICOMM, Cat 4, Top 6, Msg 1) [EOA] [NSB] NEW BULLETIN BOARD SOFTWARE, MAC BULLETIN BOARD """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" This forum has now been upgraded to our new bulletin board software. Some textside commands don't work yet in this version of the software, but you can now access this board using your web browser: http://www.syndicomm.com/communities/mac/messages Enjoy! Sheppy (Mac Bulletin Board, SYNDICOMM, Cat 2, Top 1, Msg 2) [EOA] [NSC] NEW BULLETIN BOARD SOFTWARE IMPROVEMENT """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" The new version of the bulletin board software (currently in use on pages 605 and 1600, MAC and WTC) now has scroll prompt support on textside. It does not yet automatically determine your screen height from the window size reported by your terminal program yet like the old version does, but that's coming in the next day or two. For now it just assumes 24 lines. Dave Miller justdave@syndicomm.com + justdave@justdave.net Lead Software Engineer/System Administrator, Syndicomm Online http://www.syndicomm.com/ http://www.justdave.net/ (HelpDesk Bulletin Board, JUSTDAVE, Cat 4, Top 2, Msg 36) [EOA] ------------------------------------ DISTILLATIONS FROM DELPHI A2 | ------------------------------------ by Lyle Syverson [FTE] FTP FILES TO THE IIe VIA A MAC """""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I've found some files that are available as FTP files for the Apple II -- programs and discs from Nibble Magazine. What I don't know how to do is how to get those files through my G3 Mac in a manner that will allow me to use them on my IIe. The download says that the files can be unpacked with Shrinkit. I have Shrinkit on my IIe I capture the files on the Mac and they appear on the desktop, but when I try to copy them to a Prodos formatted disc I get error messages. Do I need to do something special to get usable Apple II files when downloading them via the Mac ?? Thanks Stan Sztaba (SSZTABA, 3516.1, Delphi A2 web side) >>>>> """"" ProDOS file names are picky so make sure you are using a valid prodos name for the file. I had a similar problem when I transferred files via MS-DOS disk. For instance, ProDOS can't accept spaces. Try using periods. C'est moi! http://www.facelink.com/wrstrutts Email: wrstrutts1@home.com (WILLIAM7622, 3516.2, Delphi A2 web side) >>>>> """"" Dear William, Thank you. That was exactly the problem. The file name I was trying to copy had 16 characters, and Prodos only allows 15. HOWEVER, that doesn't completely solve my problem. Now that I have the file on a Prodos disc, Shrinkit doesn't recognize the file. Copy II Plus shows the file with a FileType of $00 Trying to VIEW the file as with Copy II Plus gives an I/O error in Block $FBAA Any suggestions ?? Thanks Stan Sztaba (SSZTABA, 3516.3, Delphi A2 web side) >>>>> """"" Did you download the file using Netscape? There is a known bug in Netscape which is referred to as "cooking" the file. There is a program called "uncook" which fixes it or you could try downloading it using Internet Explorer. C'est moi! http://www.facelink.com/wrstrutts Email: wrstrutts1@home.com (WILLIAM7622, 3516.4, Delphi A2 web side) >>>>> """"" I did in fact use Netscape. I don't see any message in my Netscape book about 'cooking' or 'uncooking.' Any idea where I'll find the 'uncook' program ? I'll also try the Inet Explorer route. Thanks Stan Sztaba (SSZTABA, 3516.5, Delphi A2 web side) [EOA] ------------------------------------ LETTERS TO THE EDITOR | ------------------------------------ [NLE] NO LETTERS TO THE EDITOR THIS MONTH """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" The mail box for Letters to the Editor remained empty this month. [EOA] [LTE] AN INVITATION ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Express your opinions about the comings and goings in the world of the Apple II computers. 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