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Internet Email....................................thelamp@sheppyware.net :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TABLE OF CONTENTS ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ October 15, 1999 OPENING PITCH We Are Where Our Hearts Will Take Us --------------------------- [OPN] A FUNNY THING HAPPENED [FOR] The Heat Is On ------------------------------------------------- [HET] Miscellanea [MSC] Rumor Mill ----------------------------------------------------- [RMR] Public Postings [PUB] Best Of The Best ----------------------------------------------- [BOB] A2Pro_DUCTIVITY Checking out A2PRO on Delphi ----------------------------------- [A2P] HARDWORKING HARDWARE Hewlett Packard Deskjets And The Apple II by Lyle Syverson ----- [HWH] EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] [*] [*] [*] READING THE LAMP! The index system used by The Lamp! is designed to make """"""""""""""""" your reading easier. To use this system, load this issue into any word processor or text editor. In the index you will find something like: EXTRA INNINGS About The Lamp! ------------------------------------------------ [INN] To read this article, simply use your search or find command to locate [INN]. There is a similar tag at the end of each article: [EOA]. :: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : : : Don't play "stupid with me... I'm better at it! : : : :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TONYW1 ::::::::::::: [EOA] [OPN]------------------------------ OPENING PITCH | ----------------------------------- From The Editor """"""""""""""" by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@sheppyware.net] WE ARE WHERE OUR HEARTS WILL TAKE US ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yes, I belong to the Hawai'i Macintosh and Apple Users' Society, but no, I don't go to many of their functions. Okay, I go to maybe four a year, but this was one I had to see. Long-time Apple fanatic Bryan Villados brought out what he calls his "Apple Museum" for a day, for a trip down memory lane for most but a ride down main street for the Apple II faithful. From photos of an Apple I to a real live Apple ][+, //e, //c, IIgs, a Lisa and a bunch of Macs, from the original to the 20th Anniversary, Bryan pulled out all the stops on a forty foot display. I'll get a chance to compare Bryan's museum to the Apple II Museum when I run up to San Diego and hang out with Tony Diaz pre-KFest in July, but for a few hours on a hot Sunday in October, I was where I had rarely been anywhere but online in many years. I was home. Thanks to Bryan for putting this on, and for standing by what the rest of us believed. When we said Apple II Forever, we really meant it. [*] [*] [*] I Went Home Department: I announced last month that the December issue of _The Lamp!_ would be the last under my editorship. Coincidently, in this issue we have the first published Apple II article by Lyle Syverson. Or maybe it's not much of a coincidence. You see, Lyle is The Chosen One, the person who will succeed me as editor of _The Lamp!_. I plan to continue my publishing duties and do a (hopefully) monthly column. And I plan to do one more thing as well--usher in the next generation of Apple II writers. Welcome. Ryan thelamp@sheppyware.net ASCII ART BEGINS _________ _ _ _ |__ __| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |___ ____ | | _____ __ ___ _ _ _____ | | | | | ___ \ / __ \ | | /____ \ | v v | | v ___ \ | | | | | | | | | /__\ \ | | ____| | | /\ /\ | | / \ \ | | | | | | | | | _____| | | / ___ | | || || | | | | | |_| | | | | | | | |_____ | |____ | |__| | | || || | | \___/ / _ |_| |_| |_| \______| |______| \____^_| |_||_||_| | |\____/ |_| | | | | |_| ASCII ART ENDS [EOA] [OPN]------------------------------ A FUNNY THING HAPPENED. . . . | ----------------------------------- Checking out A2 on Delphi """"""""""""""""""""""""" by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@sheppyware.net] * The Heat Is On * Miscellanea * Rumor Mill * Public Postings * Best Of The Best THE HEAT IS ON """""""""""""" [*] Entertainment Software ....... Silvern Castle Keeps Going [*] Apple Operating System ....... Clones And ProDOS 8 [*] Hardware Hacker ....... More SCSI And More SCSI [*] Vendors & Tech Support ....... Slow Printing From AW5? [*] Telecommunications ....... Oops! Modem MGR Manual Fixed! MISCELLANEA """"""""""" HOW TO DECODE MIME FILES There's a program for the Apple ][GS called """""""""""""""""""""""" 'StolenBase' that can translate MIME-encoded files. Actually, you have a choice of an NDA or a standalone application. Both are here in the A2 database. As I recall, the most recent version of Spectrum will also handle MIME. With StolenBase (which I generally use, since ANSITerm is my preferred Apple II communications program), it is generally sufficient to save the letter containing the text under its own file name. StolenBase can usually detect the MIME headers and decode the file. Sometimes, with multiple MIME enclosures in a file, it may be necessary to edit the mail message to eliminate extraneous stuff before StolenBase can work. Not really difficult to do. MIME files are encoded so that 8-bit data can be sent across systems that only support 7-bit data structures. The contents of the encoded file may or may not be usable on an Apple ][GS. Although there are more options, these are what I generally use when presented with the contents of a MIME file: Graphics - SuperConvert - can handle GIF or JPEG graphics. For a quick-and dirty look at GIF files, ShowMe! can show some GIF files as well. Text - Generally, MIME-encoded text files are from word processing programs, sent that way to preserve style information. Unless you get a word processing file that has the text in blocks that you can read (offset away from style information), you are pretty much out of luck. The only exception would be Rich Text Format (RTF) files. EgoEd 2.0 NDA can do a pretty respectable conversion of RTF files, within the limitations of the Teach file format. If the file is not larger than 32K, the RTF translator for GraphicWriter III does a bit better job. Early Word 6.0 files were actually RTF format, so you may get lucky if your correspondent is not using the most recent version of Word. Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth) Woofed to you by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm via Bernie ][ the Rescue! (DZAHNISER, 25892, GO COM A2) >>>>> MIME files are generally encoded with Base 64 format. """"" You will need a mail or other program to receive them, just as you would for any other form of email. But once you have the data on your IIgs, then Spectrum 2.1 and onwards, will extract the encoded data using the built-in decode function from the black apple menu. It is actually the BinHEX XCMD that is doing the work here, and it can also handle BinSCII, BinHex 4.0 and UUencode data as well. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Fri 17 Sep 1999 - 313 days till Y2KFest Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 25894, GO COM A2) >>>>> What I do, since I have a shell account, is let my email program """"" (pine) decode the mime-formatted file, and then I save it to my home directory. From there it's a snap to get the file to my //e using zmodem. :) Later........Howard (HKATZ, 25898, GO COM A2) >>>>> Attached files are actually embedded within the message when it is """"" sent, so it is all one hunk of text. Although a Mac or PC mail program may show and save an encoded file as a separate file, on the IIgs you will receive it as part of the mail message itself. The BinHQX XCMD will search any given file or text for the unique markers that start the various encoding methods. It therefore ignores any text or message that precedes those markers... If you are using COG 3.x, and reading mail, then you simply click on the 'tick' button to automagically decode an attached file. If you are elsewhere in COG, or using Spectrum manually, then just 'copy' and 'paste' the encoded text to a file on disk and point the BinHQX decoder at it... Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 21 Sep 1999 - 309 days till Y2KFest Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 26011, GO COM A2) Y2K FOR THE APPLEWORKS CALENDAR Folks """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" recent mention of the oa-q oa-m INIT in AppleWorks reminds me I have the 2000 patch ... so here it is ... APPLEWORKS DESKTOP CALENDAR YEAR '00 COMMAND PATCH for The AppleWorks Gazettes' Calendar Init ------------------------------------------------------- The year is changed to 2000. The month of February is changed to contain 29 days (a leap year) and the starting weekday of each month is changed to the appropriate weekday for 2000. Use your favorite block editor (e.g. ProSel's Zap/Block Warden) and follow the file 'I.CALENDAR' (a 1-block file) to change the following bytes: BYTE TO COMMENT ----- -- ------- $0010 $30 00 } $0011 $30 00 } FILE NAME $004D $32 2 } $004E $30 0 } $004F $30 0 } $0020 $30 0 } 2000 $0093 $1D 29 Days $009E $32 Jan - Sat $009F $22 Feb - Tue $00A0 $26 Mar - Wed $00A1 $32 Apr - Sat $00A2 $1E May - Mon $00A3 $2A Jun - Thu $00A4 $32 Jul - Sat $00A5 $22 Aug - Tue $00A6 $2E Sep - Fri $00A7 $1A Oct - Sun $00A8 $26 Nov - Wed $00A9 $2E Dec - Fri Then write the block back to the disk. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BACKUP BEFORE YOU DO THIS. That should do the trick for 2000. Kevin Noonan gswombat@delphi.com (GSWOMBAT, 26122, GO COM A2) THE ORIGINAL SWEET16 For the sake of completeness, I should mention that """""""""""""""""""" sweet-16 was *originally* a 16-bit virtual CPU invented by Steve "Woz" Wozniak, with an interpreter written in 6502 assembly for 8-bit Apple IIs. Sort of like a Java bytecode interpreter years before Java was thought up. (KWS, 26221, GO COM A2) HISTORICAL NOTES ON THE CIS LIBRARIES Interesting side issue with the """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Compuserve libraries (and there are a few former/present Compuserve regulars around who can correct me if I misspeak, considering I was only there for a few months): My understanding was that the Compuserve libraries weren't permanent repositories, but rather were LUFO based, meaning that if files weren't very popular they were eventually expunged. - Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 26198, GO COM A2) >>>>> I think you're right about files that weren't popular on CIS fading """"" away, but I also seem to remember that there was a way to "protect" files also. For example, most if not all of the NAUG PD disks were uploaded to Compuserve, and didn't disappear, even tho most of them probably weren't downloaded on a regular basis. None of the files I uploaded ever disappeared either - I guess they were accessed just enough..... Later..........Howard (HKATZ, 26208, GO COM A2) >>>>> In theory, any file that was not downloaded for a year was """"" automatically deleted. The "automatic" part of that didn't work all that reliably, but some management types would survey the libraries and give the sysops grief if "proper maintainence" wasn't done. (So, there was a "bot" that was supposed to expunge old files, and sysops were supposed to check their libraries and make sure that that was properly done.) I was a sysop there for a while, but I never worked in the MAUG areas, so I'm not sure how serious the guy who was above Neil was about that. My point is that it WAS CIS policy to delete files in the libraries, and it was a policy that they took seriously. As I recall, some of the MAUG librarians made a point of downloading older files on a regular basis, just to keep the "fresh" for management and bots. Gary R. Utter (UTTER, 26215, GO COM A2) PLANNING THE FUTURE I think that people get carried away with what might """"""""""""""""""" be possible here. Both Bernie and Ernie have taken great pains to 'emulate' a real IIgs. That means that 'new features' will not be, and should never be added to the IIgs side, so it changes what appears as a 'real' IIgs to software. It would be OK to add slot emulation, so 'plug'-in' software could emulate plug in cards, such as the Second Sight card, but it would certainly not be appropriate to build in such emulation directly. The IIgs never had such an screen emulation, so why should an emulator? As a programmer, I expect a standard IIgs environment when my programs run, not some other computer that might crash my software... Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Wed 1 Sep 1999 - 329 days till Y2KFest Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 25499, GO COM A2) NON-UNITED STATES APPLE II USERS Well.... during my IIGS time I've also """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" bought almost any piece of software which was developed and sold. Some of those programs I couldn't use, either because I didn't really have a need for it, or because it was just unusable outside of the US... All this fine IIGS software which is/was developed now/recently is several years late. Now the base for selling such software has eroded and isn't there any more. But the programmers contributed to the demise of the installed IIGS base, too. Was there any program which was available in a language other than English? Yes, there was one... Quick Click Calc, the ONLY exception. Was there a program which didn't do all things the American way? Worst example to name: Addressed for Success... Had the Apple IIGS programmers realized there are countries in existence outside of the US, and had made international programs, there would be many more active IIGS users left nowadays. This is just my not so humble opinion... your opinion may differ... Udo Ceterum censeo Microsoft esse delendam (UDOHUTH, 26082, GO COM A2) >>>>> We knew there were Apple users outside the US, but we never had any """"" real idea of how many, or how to reach them. Part of the blame for that probably lies with Apple, but most of it has to do with communications. In the days when the GS was in production, was as thriving a platform as it ever got to be, the number of European users who were in contact with the US community was vanishingly small. I knew of TWO who actually were able/willing to communicate with us. I'm not trying to lay blame here, I'm trying to say that it was not mere chauvinism that kept the communities separate, nor even the language barriers, but the fact that there was so little communication with overseas users that most people didn't even realize there was a MARKET there. The Apple II community existed then as it does now, almost entirely on line, and only CompuServe connected to overseas users at ALL. Gary R. Utter (UTTER, 26086, GO COM A2) >>>>> Another point of view... """"" The release of NiftySpell was held up for several months so that the programmer could add foreign language support. When I demoed NiftySpell at Kfest, I was floored by the question: "How well will NiftySpell work when spell checking words in Swedish?" How the heck would I or the programmer know how well NiftySpell worked with Swedish words? ;-) I picked myself up off the floor, and when I got home, suggested to the programmer that if there was a way to make NiftySpell work a little better with foreign languages, we should go out of our way to do it. We did. And now, Martin Landhage can now use NiftySpell when he is using his IIGS to write in his native language. I think that with NiftySpell, we more than "went the extra kilometer" to help our non-native English speaking IIGS friends. Joe Kohn (JOE_KOHN, 26096, GO COM A2) >>>>> generally, i think udo is right. while, in the beginning, it might """"" have been understandable computers essentially were english related, after it wasn't that way. and for sure (read mitch's msg, he's right on this IMHO) it's an apple responsibility, there was so few foreign language marketing around the apple. one of the reasons, of M$ success is, they offered, early, localized versions of their software, while OTOH a german user still had to stay with Lissner' AppleWorks 1.2 german (i think there are no later german versions, but not sure. Udo?) in the 80s, for many reasons, it was difficult to communicate with american user groups from here: we had to learn the language, we had to struggle with enormous phone costs (because of telecomm monopolies) etc. etc. but there was a user base. btw, just a simple question: who of you american apple II folks here knows a second, third etc. language. and then, apple europe forced the mac, offering localized new software, while apple II remained essentially an english centric product. you cannot go to german schools, offering computers and software, unable to speak and write not even the localized alphabeta. i still remember, i spent hours and hours to figure out, how to print out from an apple ][ german umlauts *AND* the standard ascii set :)). not to speak of the italian and french accents i needed for my work (as translator). multiscribe on an apple //c was a - painfully slow - way around, but without footnotes, index etc., while wordstar cpm was expensive and largely outdated. anyway, it is at it is, due to apple company policy. but, nevertheless, curiously, just a european developer created the most modern or better the only *NEW* apple II over the last few years :)) best regards, ulrich [ Delivered by ProTERM Message Manager (PTMM) v2.5.3 ] (UHAUSMANN, 26110, GO COM A2) >>>>> The sheer cost of connecting online to the rest of the world was """"" the main deterrent for us in the UK. About the only thing we could get the majority of Apple users here to do, was to connect to our local BBS systems. But even then, many users saw that as far too expensive, and relied on the User Group or on magazines for contacts. It was only in more recent times, when Compuserve moved round the world and gave us access at local rates, did we see more people get online. When the A2 RoundTables on GEnie started up, it was impossible for us to connect to Genie locally, and in fact GEnie made it impossible for us to actually join! Only later, did GEnie let people outside the US and Canada join their system, but we still needed expensive routes through GEIS to get to it. It is for that very reason, that I have just pulled the plug on Genie myself, as the cost of the PSS account I need to connect to GEIS, is no longer cost effective for the two or three people left on Genie... Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Mon 27 Sep 1999 - 303 days till Y2KFest Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 26141, GO COM A2) >>>>> Little known fact, you weren't supposed to be able to join at all. """"" Someone made a mistake that left a loophole open for you guys to get in, and a bunch of the sysops managed to persuade GE not to close the loophole. (We TRIED to get reasonable connect rates for overseas users, since it literally cost GE no more to provide access to their own network in Europe than it did here. But they just gave us an odd look....) Gary R. Utter (UTTER, 26155, GO COM A2) >>>>> In fact the only reason I could afford to access GEnie from the UK, """"" was that I was given a local NUA for GEIS that worked in Britain. This meant that I could access GEnie through a local PSS NUA instead of the prohibitively expensive IPSS NUA that I was supposed to use. I never did see that local NUA advertised anywhere, and it is still active several years later. Access through a local PSS NUA is charged per minute, access through an IPSS NUA is charged by the packet! But that is all now a memory to me, as I have closed the account down as of the end of this month. The Internet rather changed things when it came along, and these ancient methods of connecting are now no longer needed! Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Tue 28 Sep 1999 - 302 days till Y2KFest Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 26159, GO COM A2) >>>>> Actually, there was an online service called Mnematics that had """"" overseas connections long before CIS did. They had links to all the large European networks in France, the UK and Germany, and later expanded to other parts of the world. For a while they had an active Apple II section, tho I was always partial to the Politics SIG (Well, just because I ran it.... :) ) They stopped being a videotex service when they and Sprintnet had a falling out, tho they still survive in the NY area as an ISP. Later.............Howard (HKATZ, 26162, GO COM A2) I HEAR CONAN HAS NICE FILES That's correct. If you know what you want, """"""""""""""""""""""""""" I'll see if it's in the Genie archives and upload it here. I am considering uploading a listing of all the files to facilitate filling requests, but I'm not quite sure how to do it yet (it needs some editing and it's a =huge= list.) To tell the truth, I think we (the A2 staff) were hoping that Delphi would eventually make its databases available via ftp, but that hasn't happened and it probably won't now that the Web side is the primary focus (only the "old" text side forums even have databases, and they're only accessible on the text side.) We are exploring alternative ways to make the Genie files available somehow. Stay tuned. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Thu Sep 30, 1999 2:36:12 pm [Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold v3.2] -- Is Darth Vader YOUR father, too? (TONYW1, 26216, GO COM A2) WHAT RUNS BERNIE AND ALTERNATIVE SERIAL PORTS Bernie runs on any Power """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Macintosh, imac, iBook, four-digit Performa or PowerBook, four-digit Duo, any other Mac with PowerPC upgrade card, or Mac clone. If you would like to reuse 800kB disks, please keep in mind that current Macintosh models (excluding current PowerBooks with built-in 3.5" drives I believe), do not support 800kB disks with external 3.5" USB drives. If you would like to use Bernie's serial communication, be advised that current Macintosh computers, except PowerBooks, do not come with a serial port. You can, however, use the Power Macintosh G3 internal modem with Bernie. You can also add serial port connectivity by means of a third-party serial card (MegaWolf, for example) or USB-to-serial converter boxes. Third-party additions are usually untested on our part. If you do not really need the latest killer system and would like to save a few bucks, the best "Bernie" systems are beige Power Mac G3s. They support 800kB disks and serial port communication. I hope that helps. regards, Henrik Woof Gudat woof woof (GUDATH, 25541, GO COM A2) >>>>> I dunno, I kinda like my PowerMac 8500 with 364.5 MHz G3 upgrade """"" card. . . it'll do what the beige does, albeit sometimes a little slower, and it'll run BeOS and Ernie too :) - Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 25542, GO COM A2) >>>>> I can tell you that the Belkin USB serial adapter works perfectly """"" as an external modem connection for Bernie. That's how I've got my USR Courier hooked up to the G3. Wow, now I have to be careful about what I type. USB...USR... :) - Tony (TONYW1, 25565, GO COM A2) >>>>> How do you get Bernie to recognize the internal modem in a """"" PowerBook G3? I can't see a preference to set. (BINARY_BEAR, 25567, GO COM A2) <<<<< Bernie will show the internal modem as part of the "port" menus. """"" (The port selection pop-up menus are in Bernie's preferences window -> Communications panel.) I don't quite remember what the it was called - I think it will show up as "internal modem" or so. Bernie will list there all the serial connections it can find, be in by means of a third-party serial card, built-in ports, internal modems or whatever. Internal modem support is given when the modem is implemented in form of a serial port. Most modems are, even though recent Macs don't have a general-purpose serial port. The internal communications port is often nothing but a differently wired serial port. There are modems implementing the Rockwell Protocol. These modems are not compatible with Bernie as some processing is done in the CPU (similar to the GeoPort.) Do not confuse them with "Rockwell Chip Set" - modems with a Rockwell chip set work fine, those with a Rockwell protocol do not. regards, Henrik Woof Gudat woof woof (GUDATH, 25568, GO COM A2) DOES SOFTDISK PUBLISHING STILL HAVE THE APPLE II ISSUES? The last time I """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" wanted to order a back issue, I ran into the same thing you did. The web site doesn't acknowledge that the Apple II SoftDisk products ever existed. However, when I called them they were very helpful. Does their web site have their toll-free number? If so, you can call them and ask what might still be available. I would have to dig for the number at this point. BTW - If you do get to the point of ordering, make sure you say _several_ times that you want the _APPLE_IIGS_ SoftDisk issues. The first time I ordered over the phone after they discontinued the line, they sent me the corresponding issue numbers of their IBM PC product. Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth) Woofed to you by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm via Bernie ][ the Rescue! (DZAHNISER, 25606, GO COM A2) DOES MARINETTI HELP A POOR PHONE LINE CONNECTION? Nope, if you can't """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" maintain a good connection using a standard serial connection, a TCP/IP connection tends to be overall worse since a lot more data is sent and received. Assuming your hardware is good, the problem is probably a bad modem init string. This is most typical problem for poor connections (TCP/IP or otherwise). I've found that only the "sharp" support staff can track these down. Geoff (SISGEOFF, 25858, GO COM A2) CAN I TRANSFER MULTIPLE FILES OVER A NULL MODEM CONNECTION? I don't use """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Windows except at the office, so I can't help there, but any of the modern IIgs telecomm programs that support ZModem (such as Spectrum and ProTERM) can do multi file transfers with ZModem. You could also script them to do multiple file transfers with other protocols. - Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 25722, GO COM A2) >>>>> Any communications programs that support Y-modem batch or Z-modem """"" should work. Your best bet would be to get a program on your IIgs that supports automatic Z-modem receives. Spectrum and ProTERM both support this and I'm sure there are others. This way, all you have to do is run your communications program on your IIgs, go to the PC and tell HyperTerminal what files you want transferred and the IIgs will automatically start downloading them. No need to even leave the PC so you can transfer files one at a time or in batches. Another option would be to set up GNO/ME on your IIgs and log into it using HyperTerminal on your PC. You can then initiate X, Y or Z-modem sends using GNO/ME's rz command. Again, no need to leave the PC so you can transfer files to your heart's content. :-) Yet another option would be to set up one of your machines in "host" mode or run BBS software. The only problem here is that most of these "host" modes or BBS packages require a RING signal from the modem followed by a CONNECT signal. This can sometimes by simulated by typing these words in if you are using a null modem setup. At any rate, if you can get the program to pick up, you will be using a BBS type of interface and you can choose to upload or download files to/from the host machine. Which one you use depends on which machine is doing the hosting. PC hosting, use the IIgs to download files; IIgs hosting, use the PC to upload files. I hope this helps. Jeff Blakeney Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro (JBLAKENEY, 25726, GO COM A2) >>>>> The Modem MGR package now found in the telcommunications database """"" handles zmodem as well as x and ymodem transfers. With Zmodem you can do batch file receives, and batch sends (tho you have to set up a batch list 1st - not hard, but not as easy. Later..........Howard (HKATZ, 25727, GO COM A2) WHAT THE HECK DO YOU CALL THOSE THINGS? Well, with thanks to David Empson """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" for explaining this on comp.sys.apple2, here is a quick breakdown of the connectors. - 1st letter is the shape of the connector - 2nd letter is the physical size of the connector - the number after these letters is the number of pins in the connector Here are some examples of connectors: DA-15 is the standard IIgs RGB connector. DB-25 is the standard connector on external modems and PC parallel connectors. DC-37 are PC external floppy connectors. DD-50 are old SCSI connectors like the ones on the Sider hard drives. DE-9 is now the standard for PC serial connectors. DE-15 is the standard VGA/SVGA connectors. Notice that the PC has two connectors that are the same shape and same size but have different number of pins in them. The DE-15 just has more pins in the same amount of space as a DE-9. I hope this helps clear things up. Jeff Blakeney Dean of the Apple II University in A2Pro (JBLAKENEY, 25963, GO COM A2) MORE ON TELNET "telnet -8 -E delphi.com" """""""""""""" -8 specifies an 8-bit data path on both incoming and outgoing data. This should be good enough for most telnet clients, but apparently some (older) clients only setup an 8-bit path on incoming data with this option. -L specifies an 8-bit data path for outgoing data. This is needed by some (older) telnets that don't support -8 for both incoming and outgoing data. This ensures an 8-bit connection in both directions. -E suppresses the escape character. This is usually necessary to get Zmodem transfers to work properly. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Tony Ward, A2 Database Manager - Sat Sep 18, 1999 4:25:47 am [Delivered with Spectrum v2.2 and Crock O' Gold v3.2] -- Have you got all the stuffing up one end? (TONYW1, 25917, GO COM A2) >>>>> About telnet commands - """"" The ISP that I use for my Apple II telnet needs uses the following syntax: telnet delphi.com binary I do have a bit of a problem with Zmodem uploads (lots of errors) but the download side is impressively trouble-free. Don V. Zahniser (IronTooth) Woofed to you by OLRight! scripts for ANSITerm via Bernie ][ the Rescue! (DZAHNISER, 25948, GO COM A2) >>>>> Being a little further away from the Delphi servers than most of """"" you, and thus my Internet connection has to navigate the slew of satellites in the stratosphere, I find Zmodem is very unreliable through a Telnet connection to my ISP. Although it is very slow due to Delphi's poor implementation of Kermit, I find Kermit works just fine for me. You just need to experiment with the various protocols and see which one works best for your particular setup. You will also find that the time of day, or Internet traffic jam conditions, also are a factor in this. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Mon 20 Sep 1999 - 310 days till Y2KFest Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 25965, GO COM A2) >>>>> If you see "Telenet", then it's Sprintnet (which used to be called """"" "Telenet"). Joe Kohn's Shareware Solutions II (the early ones) have the best info available on using shell accounts. I wrote a rather extensive article on telnetting to Delphi in the February 1998 issue of _The Lamp!_ (no, I don't do this for my health) as well, and looking at that article tonight, it seems the information is only slightly dated. As Joe said, shell accounts are becoming rarer and more difficult to find, with Primenet's announcement and Concentric's discontinuing shell access. At this point, the best way to get a shell account may be to make your own: combine a high speed method of access (such as a cable modem or *DSL link) with a Linux or NetBSD or FreeBSD or (fill in your preferred UNIX or clone here) and put a null modem cable between it and your Apple II. After that, you'll have higher speed comm access than you would through a modem, no busy signals, no need for a second phone line, and only yourself to blame for old shells :-) - Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 25934, GO COM A2) >>>>> Keep in mind the differences. As Ryan said, Telenet is what's not """"" called Sprintnet--part of the public data network. This consists of dialup nodes located in (usually) metropolitan areas, that will connect your computer to another system across their own network. Telnet is an internet term that involves issuing the command and then connecting to the remote system as if you were logged directly in to it, especially useful for shell system users. So--one is a commercial service, and the other is an internet protocol. Clear as mud, I hope. :) later..........Howard (HKATZ, 25973, GO COM A2) RUMOR MILL """""""""" THE SKINNY ON SEQUENTIAL Today I called Seq Net and asked for the """""""""""""""""""""""" manager. I got a Joseph M. Yandrofski and chatted with him. Here is the scoop on Apple II hardware: He is going to have ONE more run of RamFasts when he gets 200 orders. He wouldn't tell me how close he is to 200 but he said to order now if I wanted one, implying it will be soon. He is willing to have ONE more run of Second Sights made if he gets 200 pre-orders (actually 199 because I put my name on the list :) The Second Sights will cost $159 US + Shipping + insurance. He was short handed on manning the phones today so he couldn't check actual inventory for other items, or if they had any. That is it, though. He said when the RamFasts are gone (and Second Sights if he gets an order for 200) they are out of the hardware business. He also emphasized PLACE YOUR ORDERS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE IF YOU WANT ONE. He also said to post that he has one Iomega Zip Drive left that he'll let go for a "reasonable" price, but call if you want that. Eric habanero (HABANERO, 25772, GO COM A2) >>>>> There are two things in this situation that is substantially better """"" than when the Zip GSX's disappeared: 1) People have notice. If you want one, order now. Don't be surprised when they're gone. 2) At least for the RamFAST, the Focus makes a reasonable alternative. - Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- rsuenaga@apple2.org Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_, published monthly on Delphi Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 25785, GO COM A2) NOT DEAD YET The AppleWorks Gazette isn't dead, but it isn't around """""""""""" either. My partner Chris Serreau disappeared (literally) 2 years ago, and I've not been able to find out what happened to him. Around the same time I got downsized, and currently I work 3 part-time jobs trying to keep afloat. Chris was the technical expert between the two of us, and supplied half of the material that went into TAG. I came up with the rest. I simply don't have the resources to do an 800k disk by myself, and requests to subscribers for material for publication came up with a grand total of one article. I still have hopes that I can start it up again, but it HAS been a couple of years, and that hope fades daily. I feel I've let people who subscribed down, and it's not something I want to have happened. Maybe if I can get back to full-time employment status I might be able to do something about it, but the energy and resources just aren't there right now. Later................Howard (HKATZ, 25918, GO COM A2) PUBLIC POSTINGS """"""""""""""" SHEPPYWARE APPLE II DEVELOPMENT ON INDEFINITE SABBATICAL Important """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" SheppyWare Announcement For various reasons, I have decided to suspend development on all my Apple II projects indefinitely. I'm tired and it's just not worth the effort anymore. I still intend to release WebWorks GS as a downloadable package next month, and this announcement doesn't affect the prices of any of my products already available. I will complete the final two articles in the GSoft BASIC series for Juiced.GS (bringing the total number up to six; the fourth is coming in the next issue, and is already finished). And unless Byte Works cancels it, I will complete the work I'm doing for them. The "Shadowlands", "DiskMaker", and "ImageMaker Deluxe" projects are postponed indefinitely. I'm not saying I'm leaving the Apple II world forever, I'm just taking a break to see if my life gets any easier without the hassles from the select few. The percentage of Apple II users that treat Apple II programmers like dirt has risen to the point where I can't bring myself to tolerate it anymore. I'm just not having enough fun writing the code to put up with the amount of cruel and unwarranted remarks I get from just a handful of people. Consider: there are about 50 people that buy my products and are appreciative (and I love them all for it!). Then there are around 5 people that are really unpleasant and occasionally abusive. That ratio (1 in 10!) is way too high for this to be worth it anymore. If I find that I just can't live without writing Apple II code, I'll pick it back up, and maybe that'll happen, but as it stands, I just don't feel like it's worth my trouble. I do plan to continue to hang around A2, supporting my existing software and participating in the friendly chats that go on here. My congratulations to Dr. Tom and his friends for their victory. Enjoy. My heartfelt thanks to all of you that have been supportive for all these years. I consider you all to be my friends. --- Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 26223, GO COM A2) WE'RE SQUEEZING YOUR JUICED AS FAST AS WE CAN GreetinGS, """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" There will be a bit of a delay in getting the September '99 issue of Juiced.GS into the mail. The issue is very near completion, but unforeseen real-life circumstances have slowed the process somewhat, and I will be in Denver, Colorado, the rest of this week (15th thru 19th) for a National Conference of Editorial Writers Convention. I had hoped to have the issue ready for the mail before this trip, but things didn't quite work out. Work will resume next Monday on the upcoming issue, and it should only take a few days to complete once I can get back at it. My apologies for the delay .... Max Jones Juiced.GS http://www.wbwip.com/juiced.gs (JUICEDGS, 25841, GO COM A2) LAST CALL FOR WEBWORKS GS MANUALS An important WebWorks GS announcement: """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Shareware Solutions II is now offering WebWorks GS at $10 per copy. This includes the disk and printed manual. Once Joe is out of stock, WebWorks GS printed manuals will no longer be available (unless Joe decides to sell them on his own), because I'm going to begin distributing it entirely online. If you want a printed WWGS manual, buy now, or forever hold your peace. --- Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 25796, GO COM A2) FOR TRADE: SHEPPYWARE FOR PPC PCI MAC If anyone has a Power Mac 7300, """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" 7500, 7600, 8500, 8600, 9500, or 9600, or UMAX J700 or S900 that you don't need and are considering getting rid of, please let me know. I can't afford to pay what it's worth, but I'd be willing to give free software as a portion of the payment for the machine. I don't need drives, I don't need the processor card... Just the case, power supply, memory, and internal cables and parts. The rest I can swap in myself (I have a dual-processor card I want to use in it). Machines with no RAM would be considered as well. I need the machine to run the PowerPC version of BeOS on, to further Sweet16 development -- and for some other projects that I can't do easily right now. If you have a machine like these and are looking to sell, please drop me an email: { sheppy@sheppyware.net.} Thanks! --- Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 25834, GO COM A2) SSII BRINGS SOFTWARE TO YOU--ON SALE Shareware Solutions II's "Support """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Those Who Support The Apple II" Sale, Part 3: One of the best Apple IIGS games ever released - Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS - is now available from Shareware Solutions II for $10. This low cost offer is _for a limited time only_ and to take advantage of this reduced price, your order must be postmarked no later than September 30, 1999. Let's listen to what some notable Apple IIGS users have had to say about Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS: Jawaid Bazyar said: "It's awesome, and those who know me know I don't say this lightly. This is fantastic!" Tony Diaz said: "LemminGS is great! A rare one in my book, it really brings out the GS in IIgs. I've not seen such smooth animation since The Immortal." Geoff Weiss said: "The first thing I have to say is this is cool!" If you are not already familiar with this incredible game, a fully playable demo which includes the first 10 levels of the game, can be downloaded from the ground ftp archive at: http://ground.ecn.uiowa.edu/apple2/apple16/Games/LemminGSdemo.shk Additionally, you can read an independent review of Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS at: http://www.reflexive.net/james/articles/lemmings/index.html To order Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS for only $10, send checks/money orders - postmarked no later than September 30th - to: Shareware Solutions II 166 Alpine St San Rafael, CA 94901 Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS is supplied on three 3.5" disks, and requires a IIGS with at least 2 megabytes of RAM. A hard drive is recommended but not required. Joe Kohn http://www.crl.com/~joko (JOE_KOHN, 25596, GO COM A2) <<<<< A week or two ago, it was announced that, if purchased from """"" Shareware Solutions II, the price of Eric Shepherd's WebWorks GS - an html editor for the Apple IIGS - had been lowered to $10. When the new lower price was announced, it was also stated that only subscribers to Shareware Solutions II could purchase it at that special price. That restriction is now lifted. Anyone can now purchase WebWorks GS from Shareware Solutions II for $10. To order, send checks or money orders in US funds to: Shareware Solutions II 166 Alpine St San Rafael, CA 94901 Joe Kohn http://www.crl.com/~joko (JOE_KOHN, 25811, GO COM A2) <<<<< Just a reminder that Shareware Solutions II is now offering a """"" couple of $10 specials.... WebWorks GS, if ordered from SSII, is only $10. Brutal Deluxe's LemminGS is now available for $10. The cost of The Apple IIGS Photo CD-ROM is $10. Send checks or money orders, in US funds only, to: Shareware Solutions II 166 Alpine St San Rafael, CA 94901 Info on the above software can be found at http://www.crl.com/~joko Joe (JOE_KOHN, 25851, GO COM A2) NEW SWEET Version 1.2 of Sweet16 is now available! My original plan had """"""""" been to ship a more comprehensive 1.2 in October, but this version fixes a bug that's very annoying and I felt it was worth putting out an update sooner to get it into users' hands as quickly as possible. Here's what's new: Bugs fixed: 1. Fixed a bug in the speed control code that would cause emulation to randomly pause from time to time. 2. Fixed a bug in the ADB code that caused the keyboard to get stuck repeating. 3. Fixed a bug in the ADB code that caused garbage characters to be returned. Improvements: 1. Minor optimizations to the ADB subsystem. 2. Added a "Mount as read-only" checkbox to the Mount Disk Image file panel. 3. The Create disk image menu now provides an option to create 100 MB images. 4. You can now select multiple disks to unmount in the Mount Disk Image file panel. New Features: 1. Floppy disks are now pre-cached gradually in the background after you mount them. This uses a background thread to slowly read in the disk into the cache so that future reads will be faster; this happens without any noticeable loss of IIgs CPU performance. 2. You can now record movies of Sweet16's video window. Audio isn't supported yet, and only the large video mode can be recorded. This requires a lot of processing power and disk speed though, or the entire system slows down. (16-bit, 640x400 video is very computationally-intensive to record). You can create movies using any BeOS supported file format and codec (including QuickTime and AVI, Indeo, Photo-JPEG, etc). 3. Holding down the command (Alt) key when launching Sweet16 starts the emulator paused. This gives you time to swap out disk images before the IIgs boots. 4. Added the new Disks window. This window shows you the disks you have mounted, whether or not they're currently running, and how big they are. You can also eject and mount disks using this window. --- Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 25512, GO COM A2) BERNIE BUMPED TO 2.5 FREE YOUR DATA - BERNIE TOTAL INTEGRATION MAKES ITS """""""""""""""""""" DEBUT Basel/Switzerland -- 9/21/99 -- F.E.Systems introduced today a major update to Bernie ][ The Rescue, the emulator that pioneered Apple IIgs emulation. Version 2.5 brings tight integration with MacOS by offering file drag&drop and copy&paste across platforms, among other new features and internal changes. With "Bernie Total Integration" users can now drag & drop files between MacOS and GS/OS with simple mouse clicks. Bernie 2.5 also enhances the standard copy & paste commands so text clipboards can be shared easily with the Mac environment. True integration at your fingertip! The update also greatly improves sound emulation by adding non-linear, adaptive volume control with automatic channel balancing. F.E.Systems maintains an extensive web site with up-to-date online tutorials, software specials for registered users, and online support. Bernie's home page can be reached at { http://www.magnet.ch/emutech/Bernie/.} F.E.Systems has specialized in emulation technologies and develops and distributes the most advanced Apple II emulator. We believe in the concept of "reusing technology" and are offering emulation tools that enhance a platform's functionality as a way to protect your investments. Henrik Woof Gudat woof woof (GUDATH, 26016, GO COM A2) AND 2.5.1 Dear Bernie users, """"""""" Despite all testing and garlic on our monitors, we have learned around five hours ago that Bernie would not launch ProDOS 8 applications from the IIgs Finder. The bug - a memory $201 error - hit the system during the change of environments so at no time your data was unsafe. We have removed the software immediately and investigated the issue. The required parts have been revised and Bernie 2.5.1 is now back on the servers. For your convenience we have also prepared a small upgrade that includes just the Bernie application and the Total Integration extension. The two files replace your Bernie 2.5 application and the system extension "Bernie.Enabler" in your GS/OS system folder (Startup Disk:System:System.Setup:). The direct link to the download page is { http://www.magnet.ch/emutech/Download/Parts/bernieconsumer.html} . We apologize for the incident and wish you a pleasant time with a bug-free Bernie 2.5.1. Regards, Henrik Woof Gudat woof woof (GUDATH, 26064, GO COM A2) BEST OF THE BEST """""""""""""""" 26126 26-SEP 13:57 General Chatter Sequential Systems dead? (Re: Msg 26109) From: T_DIAZ To: SPECTOR1 (NR) If you only knew how many vendors were committed to the new Apple II. If you think of the amount of software titles that were never finished in the later 80's and early 90s (Well, 89-91 actually), I call that the second wave of ditching. There was a royally F**KED time at Apple they actually, less than 2 years after introduction of the Apple IIgs just like that, dropped a bomb on the marketing of the entire platform and refused to spend any more money on it. They told vendors "No. Do not do that, program it for the Mac ...", etc. Well, guess what. The amount of negative feedback and revolt that the users who had paid on average of $2,000 for these systems was not something they could ignore. .. So while vendors decided to 'go where the money was', after a second revival of sorts they ditched again after a dismal showing. Liken that to the Perot presidential campaign. I'm in, I'm out, I'm in, I'm out Well, 19% was a strong showing, but not enough of those that were alienated by the indecision of the past. Yes, the IIgs was 'overhyped', but so is nearly every single product at introduction. There are a few differences here though: The Amiga has most of it's OS features released with it, the Apple IIgs was 2 years behind the OS. I still do believe that we would have never seen system 6 if Apple had gotten away with it's master plan of ditching after two years. Two years after the Amiga, Commodore was going gung ho still with it, and while the C=64 users may have felt they were getting the shaft like the A2 users did to the Mac, Commodore was not crapping on them at the same time, like Apple was doing. Some of you may say, "Fine.. look where that got Commodore", yeah, look where it got Apple too. They were both headed down the same road. Fortunately for us Apple took the other fork in the road and did something about it. As for the Amiga, I know several hardcore Amiga users that used it in business. They all switched to Mac because Lightwave was ported to the Mac. If the Apple IIgs was released with GS/OS instead of that hacked shell added to a ProDOS 8 core we may be in a different position now. But anyway.. We are the lone holdouts, the Apple II has given me many things, half are monetary, the rest are the relationships and community. While one has dwindled the other can last forever. So here we are, and I'll see you next summer in Kansas City! ..and KFest is not about making a killing in the bank. One can dream though. :) Tony [EOA] [A2P]------------------------------ A2Pro_DUCTIVITY | ----------------------------------- Checking out A2PRO on Delphi """""""""""""""""""""""""""" by Ryan M. Suenaga, B.A., M.S.W., L.S.W. [thelamp@sheppyware.net] RESOLVING AN UNRESOLVED REFERENCE LABEL I'm doing something stupid, but """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" I'm not sure what I'm missing. I'm writing an assembly program, but needs to call C functions. I found the section in the Orca/C manual how to call the C function so I'm set with that. The problem is during the linking. I'm getting Unresolved reference Label errors for each C function that the assembly code is referencing. I am guessing that I have no idea how to tell the assembly code the labels are to be found in the C code. I have the assembly routines in one file, lets call it prog.asm. I have the C functions in another file, lets call it funcs.cc. What I did was this: assemble prog.asm compile funcs.cc link prog funcs keep=prog I was hoping the linking would magically figure out the labels, but that didn't work. I'm not finding anything in the manuals that is helping me. Geoff (SISGEOFF, 2746, GO COM A2PRO) >>>>> Keep in mind that this is a great way to crash the computer if you """"" forget to initialize the C environment. The C libraries, and in some cases even the code generated by the compiler, depend on an orderly initialization of certain registers, global variables, and tools. If you don't do that and use a function or instruction that depends on initialization, you're asking for trouble. The easiest way to set things up is to start the program from C, then call your main assembly language routine from main(). You can find specific startup information for roll-your-own startups in the C release notes. Mike Westerfield (BYTEWORKS, 2749, GO COM A2PRO) >>>>> Just a wild guess here, since I'm at work and can't look it up, but """"" do you have the case directive on in ORCA/M? (I assume that's what you're using for your assembler.) Later, - Aaron (APULVER, 2747, GO COM A2PRO) >>>>> That's almost certainly it. Add "CASE ON" to your assembly source """"" at the top of the file; ORCA/M normally assembles with all labels converted to upper-case, but ORCA/C is case-sensitive, so you need to turn on case-sensitive assembling so the labels match. --- Eric (Sheppy) Shepherd sheppy@sheppyware.net http://www.sheppyware.net (SHEPPY, 2748, GO COM A2PRO) WHAT HAPPENS WITH DESIGNMASTER? The problem I see most often when I """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" generate Rez source from DesignMaster is that the resource IDs get screwed up. I can't remember for sure, but I believe the high word of the ID (or one bit of the high word? I forget) contains some random value. The ID might be correct in the control list, for example, but then the actual resource has a bogus ID. That particular problem isn't too hard to fix by hand if you know what you're looking for, but I recall having run into a couple of other bugs as well. :) Later, - Aaron (APULVER, 2753, GO COM A2PRO) THANKS FROM THE DEAN Now that the last lesson in the Hypercard IIgs """""""""""""""""""" course has been released, I would like to take this opportunity to thank Gareth Jones for the excellent job he did in creating this course. I know that I have learned a lot about HyperCard IIgs from reading these lessons and have earned a new respect for a development system that I always considered to be not much more than a novelty. Thank you Gareth, for the time and effort you put into this course. Also, I would like to thank HangTime for running his Tuesday night HyperCard IIgs chats and volunteering to help any of the course participants during those chats. Finally, I wish to thank those that participated and gave feedback. I'm sure Gareth would love to get more feedback as I believe he intends to refine the course over time. Don't forget that the A2Pro Forum and Conference area are still here to help answer any questions you may have about creating or modifying HyperCard IIgs stacks so feel free to ask. Jeff Blakeney - Dean of the Apple II University sent via COG v3.1, Spectrum v2.2 and Marinetti v2.0 (JBLAKENEY, 2762, GO COM A2PRO) >>>>> Thanks for the kind words about the HCGS course. I also learned a """"" lot during it, even though (or especially though) I wrote it! As Jeff mentioned, I'd like to improve the course over time. I've put up html versions of the lessons at my web site (http://www.intergate.bc.ca/personal/gslj) for this purpose. Any comments or suggestions or even criticisms are welcome. -Gareth (GARETH, 2766, GO COM A2PRO) <<<<< Since I have just finished typing a thank you to the instructor of """"" the HyperCard IIgs course, I feel compelled to do the same for the author of both the language and the course for GSoft BASIC. Thanks to Mike Westerfield the Apple IIgs has yet another incredibly powerful programming language that is easy to learn. This learning process is even easier due to the "Learn to Program in GSoft BASIC" text that Mike has written and sells through his company, the Byteworks. Mike graciously gave of his time, even after the work entailed to give us these new resources, to host a two hour chat on Monday nights to help budding GSoft BASIC programmers who were working their way through his course. Thanks also to the participants of this course, especially to those that captured transcripts of the chats for me when I was late or couldn't attend. You know who you are and I'm believe I have credited you in the descriptions of the uploaded files. As with the HyperCard IIgs course, I would like to invite anyone with a GSoft BASIC problem to feel free to ask questions here in the A2Pro Forum or in Conference. Mike Westerfield and many other knowledgeable people will be quite happy to help you. Jeff Blakeney - Dean of the Apple II University sent via COG v3.1, Spectrum v2.2 and Marinetti v2.0 (JBLAKENEY, 2763, GO COM A2PRO) SPECTRUM SCRIPTING HELP FROM THE MASTERS I need some assistance with the """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" AlertWindow XCMD. I am trying to display a window when a certain value is zero, but nothing is ever displayed. I then just gave the External AlertWindow command with its appropriate parameters in a script by itself as follows: External AlertWindow 1 8 4 32*There's nothing here.~^^OK And got nothing. This is in the SHR screen. I have the feeling I'm not setting some parameters, but what am I missing? Thanks. . . - Ryan M. Suenaga, M.S.W., L.S.W. -- Editor and Publisher, _The Lamp!_ My words are not to be posted to usenet without my permission ever. Posted by PTMM v2.5 - The integrated information solution (RSUENAGA, 2767, GO COM A2PRO) >>>>> Try this: """"" External AlertWindow 1 8 4 32 "There's nothing here.~^^OK" ButNum You need a result variable to return the button number which is always 1 so you can ignore its content. Of course, change the quotes to your quote character. Geoff (SISGEOFF, 2768, GO COM A2PRO) >>>>> You must delimit all values with a space. If you add a space after """"" '32' the example will now work. You must also add a trailing 'quote' after 'OK', or you will not get the correct value into the button. You must 'balance' quotes or odd things will happen. Ewen Wannop - Speccie - Mon 30 Aug 1999 - 331 days till Y2KFest Delivered without using a IIgs by Spectrum 2.2 & Crock O' Gold 3.2 Bernie ][ the Rescue 2.0 woofing at 55Mhz on a G3/350 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ewannop/ (EWANNOP, 2769, GO COM A2PRO) [EOA] [HWH]------------------------------ HARDWORKING HARDWARE | ----------------------------------- APPLE II PRINTERS """"""""""""""""" Written by Lyle Syverson [lyle837@delphi.com] Hewlett Packard Deskjets And The Apple II ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~" It was one of those lazy Sunday afternoons... window shopping the advertising fliers. !THUD! Read that again... Hewlett Packard DeskJet 400 for $88. I had promised myself that if the price of the HP DeskJets went below $100 I would get one for my Apple IIgs. It was time to make good on that promise. FINDING A BARGAIN ON A NEW DESKJET PRINTER Watch the ads for your local '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Wal-Mart, computer stores, and office supply stores. If an ad sounds good check it out promptly. I waited ten days to get to Wal-Mart and ended up buying a HP Deskjet 420C for $98 rather than the 400 for $89. Also stop in regularly at these stores and check out their printer displays. Recently the local OfficeMax was offering the same HP 420C with a $20 mail in coupon for a net price of $79 after rebate. They had not advertised this bargain. Which Deskjet should you get? In general if the specs say it will work with _MS DOS_ it will work with the Apple II. Avoid printers that are for use with _Windows_ only. Some of the local stores are currently offering a $30 mail in rebate coupon for the HP Deskjet 612C for $129... a net price of $99. The 612C has both color and black ink cartridges in place at the same time. The Deskjet 420C has a track record with the Apple II. It is inexpensive, small, light weight, quiet, and works well with Appleworks and the 16 bit programs on the IIgs. Keep in mind that the 420C can only have one ink cartridge installed at a time. If you are switching from black and white to color or back you will have to change ink cartridges. THE MYSTIQUE OF THE APOLLO PRINTER The Apollo 1200 printer, and the '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' "Barbie Printer" (as in Barbie Dolls) are reported to be the same printer as the HP Deskjet 420C. The shape of the exterior case of the Apollo and the 420C are definitely not the same. The Apollo uses exactly the same HP ink cartridges as the 420C. Hewlett Packard denies any connection with Apollo printers. Following the news link on the Apollo web site (http://www.myapollo.com/) indicates that Apollo is a subsidiary of HP! If you visit the Apollo web site you can print out coupons for mail in rebates of $30 on the Apollo 1200 and the Barbie printer, so you should check prices on these printers. Locating a place to buy either one of these printers might be another matter. I stopped at my local Best Buy to ask about these printers. I was told that these printers were carried only for a short time as a special promotion... Best Buy is no longer selling them. The people at Office Depot (the only other local store to advertise the Apollo printer) indicated that they were instructed to return all 25 of the Apollos to the manufacturer because of software problems. WHAT ELSE WILL YOU NEED FOR YOUR NEW DESKJET? You will need a parallel ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' card. This is usually installed in slot 1 but could be installed in one of the other slots. Alltech Electronics (http://www.allelec.com/) lists the Grappler Plus card for $29. This card includes a cable that connects directly to the Deskjet printers. I was able to purchase a new Grappler Plus from an individual for $10 including shipping. Also watch the used market. If you will be using the Deskjet with the 16 bit programs on the IIgs you will need special software drivers. I use _Harmonie_. _Harmonie_ is available from Shareware Solutions II (http://www.crl.com/~joko/) for $20 including shipping. _Independence_ is available from MyEsource (http://www.myesource.com/sevenhills/) for $20 plus shipping. (Editor's Note: see the February 1999 issue of _The Lamp!_ for a discussion of the merits of these two fine products) With the IIgs you would also you would be well advised to use _Pointless_ so that you can use TrueType fonts. _Pointless_ is available from Shareware Solutions II (http://www.crl.com/~joko/) for $20 including shipping. The _Harmonie_ DeskJet560C driver works great with the 420C and the black ink cartridge. To use the color cartridge you will need to use the DeskJet500C driver. _Appleworks_ 4.3 and 5.1 include two drivers for the HP Deskjet 500. With the Grappler Plus and the Deskjet 420C "add" these printers then: 1. Install black ink cartridge in Deskjet. 2. Change "Needs line feed after each Return" to yes. 3. Change Interface Cards to "Control-I 0N" (that is zero N). Then there are _The New Print Shop_, _Print Shop GS_, and _Print Shop Companion GS_. No drivers for the HP 420C... And only a very slim hope that there ever will be. So I also left the Imagewriter II hooked up to the IIgs. CONCLUSION I would highly recommend the HP Deskjet 420C printer for use '''''''''' with the Apple II. Considering the volatile prices of the Deskjets you should also consider other printers such as the HP 612C and the Apollo / Barbie printers when making your purchase. :: DISCUSSED ON DELPHI :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : : : The world is coming to an end. Please log-off. : : : ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: LUMITECH :::::: [EOA] [INN]------------------------------ EXTRA INNINGS | ----------------------------------- About The Lamp! 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